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DaKat
July 18th, 2005, 09:47 AM
SAFETY AGENCY WIDENS INVESTIGATION

NHTSA awaits Ford's internal report into the questionable part, which is in 16 million vehicles.

By Bill Vlasic / The Detroit News

With reports of vehicle fires mounting, Ford Motor Co. is racing to meet a mid-August deadline to provide federal investigators with details of its analysis of faulty cruise-control deactivation switches.

More than 500 fires have been reported to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration in Ford F-150 pickups, and Ford Expedition and Lincoln Navigator SUVs.

In January, Ford announced it was recalling more than 700,000 pickups and SUVs to disconnect switches in the engine compartment that could overheat and cause fires. In March, NHTSA opened a broader investigation into 3.7 million additional vehicles with potentially the same problem.

A NHTSA spokesman said this week that the agency is deeply involved in its investigation of the switches, but is awaiting Ford's internal data on switch failures.

"We sent Ford a very detailed information request, which they have until mid-August to respond to," said NHTSA spokesman Rae Tyson.

As many as 16 million Ford vehicles have switches similar to those in the recalled pickups and SUVs. But NHTSA has yet to make public its analysis of other vehicles, and doesn't expect to do so soon.

"It's a very complex problem, and it's going to take time to get to the bottom of it," Tyson said.

One auto-safety advocate said Ford is under intense pressure to come up with answers.

"Ford's liability just continues to grow, and this has the potential to become a billion-dollar problem," said Sean Kane of Safety Research and Strategies Inc.

A number of lawsuits, including two involving fatal fires, have been filed against Ford and its suppliers, Texas Instruments Inc. and E.I. DuPont De Nemours and Co.

Ford spokeswoman Kristen Kinley said the automaker is investigating the switches "both inside and outside the recall population."

"When the investigation is complete, Ford will report its findings as appropriate," she said. "We are working hard to resolve this issue as quickly as possible."

LINK (http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0507/18/A01-250518.htm)

Desert Stallion
July 18th, 2005, 10:15 AM
Huh, cool. Some engineer f*cked up on something. Too bad all those faulty light switches of the 80's and 90's never burned down any cars. Anyone who owned a Ford could've had them replace the switch and install the $3 relays required to keep the switch from melting down. :rolleyes:

Oh well, at least they're leaving the Crown Vic's alone.

John Dancy
August 2nd, 2005, 04:26 PM
Ford Focus and Winstar power steering units from 2002 to 2004 shipped with the wrong fluid. It eats away at the o-rings. Ford has been replacing them hand over fist for original owners. This comes from an annonymous Ford employee. There may be OTHER years and OTHER mdels but these two are the only ones that we discussed ... as the dealership replaced the one in our Windstar "just because".

ekooke
August 3rd, 2005, 07:13 AM
quote:Originally posted by Desert Stallion:
Huh, cool. Some engineer f*cked up on something. Too bad all those faulty light switches of the 80's and 90's never burned down any cars. Anyone who owned a Ford could've had them replace the switch and install the $3 relays required to keep the switch from melting down. :rolleyes:

Oh well, at least they're leaving the Crown Vic's alone.

The headlight switches in the '70s, '80s thru early '90s acted as they were designed to do; when there was an overload condition detected on the exterior lighting wiring, the headlight switch circuit breaker (CB) would open and cut the power, avoiding a fire, also giving rise to the term, "Ford flashing headlight syndrome" since the lights came back on when the CB cooled down - relayed headlights are always a good idea. The ignition switches of Ford-made cars in that era were (still are) a much bigger fire hazard that, if not changed out for the "newer design" switches, can still burst into flame. Ford somehow avoided recalling & replacing a few million of the defective design switches, so they are still out there. This newer problem with the CC deactivation switch started around 1990 and has "come & gone" several times since then. I've never understood why that switch was still powered AFTER the ignition was cut off, causing a stuck switch to continue drawing current, heating up, and eventually catching fire.