My rant about why my generation will be the end of us all...

[Desert Stallion]

So I'm coming home just a few minutes ago on the 60 going east, and about Val Vista this white S10 gets on, almost hitting a Chevy truck in the right lane, which fortunately swerved to get out of the way. As I get closer, I see there's movement in the bed.

Closer still, and sure enough, there's SIX fuckin' people in the bed of this S10, who's driver is either smashed, stoned, or at the very least a shitty driver as he's swerving all over the place and jerking the wheel side to side.

So, I figure WTF and call up DPS, thinking to myself, 'These kids might not have any common sense, but if one of them pukes falls out it's going to smash up my front fascia and probably screw up my alignment when I run over their stupid ass.' I never do this sorta thing, but c'mon.

So I get this really irritated-sounding prissy bitch operator on the other end, and describe the situation.

Her response: 'That's perfectly legal sir.'
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Insert long pause here.
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Finally I regain some composure. "Oh really. I kinda thought that all occupants had to be in seat belts, or that the listed maximum number of passengers had to be adhered to, or least of all that you couldn't have passengers in the bed of the pickup, let alone a pickup going 65 down the freeway."

"Sir, in the state of Arizona, if the occupant is old enough to not need a car seat, it's perfectly legal."

Me, "Oookaaay. Thanks then."

I mean, really. Anyway, they ended up exiting on Superstition Springs with me, and proceded to almost roll over when they pulled into the apartment complex off the Springs between Baseline and the Harkins.

Oh well, Darwinism will catch up sooner or later. Hopefully they don't take anyone else with them.

[cason1]

They recently started running aggressive driver cars on the interstates looking for that sort of thing. They may run radar but won't come after you unless they can get at 15 over or more or are driving stupid. They have camera's in the windshield and back window so they can catch people while they have people pulled over and then mail them a ticket. Really great for that kinda thing.

[clouderold]

quote:Originally posted by cason1:
They recently started running aggressive driver cars on the interstates looking for that sort of thing. They may run radar but won't come after you unless they can get at 15 over or more or are driving stupid. They have camera's in the windshield and back window so they can catch people while they have people pulled over and then mail them a ticket. Really great for that kinda thing.


15 over?? Here it's 5 over and you're fucked..

[cason1]

Most cops are 7-12 over but they concentrate on 15 and up.

[clouderold]

quote:Originally posted by cason1:
Most cops are 7-12 over but they concentrate on 15 and up.

Not here. lol

[LSRX101]

Damn, In Ohio it's illegal to ride in the back of a pickup, period. And many times 5-7 over will get you at least a glance from the Staties, 10 WILL get you stopped by many locals on the Interstate. I know my town just started a "5 over and you're busted" policy in the city limits. (Not official, of course).

[Kit Sullivan]

Was that fuckin' six people...or six people fuckin? Might have been an intersting sight!

[Steve Moran]

6 over will get you a ticket in South Dakota unless you are a woman.
One of my coworker's wife speeds all the time and never gets sited, he even told a cop to issue a citation and the officer told him he wasn't very nice to his wife.
My friend then replyed that she will never slow down unless you give her a ticket, the officer still let her off with a warning.
My ol lady has never had a ticket issued and she drives faster then I do. Lastly the girl that plowed in the back of my son as he sat at a stop sign never recieved a ticket

[NYC LS8]

Kids are kids. It's not just your generation. We've all done stupid shit like that - and some of us have even lived to tell the stories!

[pro-five-oh]

Ya old man, stop killin' my buzz. tongue.gif

[NYC LS8]

Get a better vice to get your buzz from. How's that grab ya? tongue.gif :D

[Desert Stallion]

quote:Originally posted by NYC LSC:
Kids are kids. It's not just your generation. We've all done stupid shit like that - and some of us have even lived to tell the stories!

It ain't about kids being kids and livin' to tell about it. It's about some puke fallin' out on the freeway at 65 and f*ckin' up the front end of my car!

I mean, I'm certainly not one who advocates the idea of 'lock your kids in a closet'. I mean, I do stupid sh*t all the time.

However, having a stoned/smashed/horrific driver at the wheel of a S10 doing 65 on the freeway, swerving in his lane, with 6 people in the bed... That's just not cool.

[pro-five-oh]

Hey now, I was taking YOUR side! LOL!!!

But for the record I prefer being a cheap drunk than making it a vice. tongue.gif

[jmueller44]

quote:Originally posted by Desert Stallion:
Oh well, Darwinism will catch up sooner or later. Hopefully they don't take anyone else with them.

Talk about idiots. I was rear ended going to the dump in my wife’s Ranger not too long ago. The other driver was a punk kid with neon red hair and a huge attitude. He proceeded to inform me that he was not going to give me his drivers’ license number. I told him that the law required him to furnish his information. He said that he did not care, accused me of trying to steal his identity, and started walking back to his vehicle. I finally got his attention by calling 911. About 20 minutes later, a hard-boiled Dickless Tracy with an attitude of her own drove up and got out of her patrol car acting put out. She informed Red that drivers are required by law to show a divers license after being involved in an accident. “Red” then informed the cop that he would not show his drivers license to her either. We were both trying to steal his identity. She whipped out her ticket book and told “Red” that if he did not have his drivers license out by the time she start writing, then he was going to be cited. He saw the light and complied. Why do they issue drivers licenses to the mentally deficient?

[jmueller44]

quote:Originally posted by clouderold:


15 over?? Here it's 5 over and you're fucked..

Maybe, but first you have to find a cop in Seattle who thinks that it might be a good idea to write at least one traffic citation in his/her career. I usually try to drive no more than 2 or 3 miles over the limit and everybody passes me as if I were going backwards. I have experienced this even going through radar traps where five or six motorcycle cops are lined up to bust speeders. Are you sure you meant 5 and not 50 over? :D

[Fordace]

quote:Originally posted by cason1:
Most cops are 7-12 over but they concentrate on 15 and up.

In NY, we can get away with 68 in a 55, but not 48 in a 30..... :D

[Desert Stallion]

quote:Originally posted by Fordace:


In NY, we can get away with 68 in a 55, but not 48 in a 30..... :D

Haha, that's kinda how we are. You can do 75-80 on the 65mph freeway all day, but as soon as you're doing 49 in a 45 on a city street your cycle cop fodder.

Of course, there's always those who make it easy on the cops, like this kid in the local Mustang club who had THREE criminal speeding tickets before he was 18. His parents were paying $400-somehtin' a month for his insurance too. :rolleyes:

I think his greatest acheivement was 106 in a 65. Not sure that's right, but it was 10x in a 65.

[TCF]

Here in BC Canada, its ILLEGAL to simply ride a bicycle w/o a helment... welllll yes... I'm all for safety equipment BUT there is no law about skateboarding w/o a helmet, or any one of a hundred other potentially injurous outdoor activities activities...

These days I haven't been able to rationalize the "common" part in the phrase "common sense".... mebbe it s/b renamed to "uncommon sense".

I think the history of man (East & West) has shown no civilization has been able to successfully manage/control people by simply adding more and more laws, human society and related interactions are simply too complex, varied and changing to have every scenario explicitly codified.

IMHO try using some FUNDEMENTAL ones (laws) and then CONSISTENTLY/REGULARLY enforcing them. ( using UN-common sense of course :D )

A lot can stem from simply having/showing respect for yourself and others... but what the hey tongue.gif its a wacky world...

[AceFrehley03]

quote:Originally posted by Cason1:

Most cops are 7-12 over but they concentrate on 15 and up.

Cops in Duvall, WA (my home city) have been authorized to pull anyone over for 1 MPH over the speed limit (26 in a 25, 31 in a 30 or 46 in a 45. 56 in a 55 will get you raped on the side of the road.) Best yet, they don't just pull you over - under order of the city mayor they are damn near REQUIRED to write out speeding tickets to the maximum extent of the law in such instances.

I got pulled over recently for a 27 in a 25 (my cars speedo is off due to off-stock tire sizes) and the officer was doing to write me something like a $137 ticket.

I made a hell of a ruckus. I requested the chief of police there (he claimed the chief was unavailable but this was bullshit, I've known him for 15 years) and I continued to ask in a louder and louder manner until the officer felt his time was wasted and left.

I'm sure I will be followed, but I'd love for them to try to touch me. I will perform a reverse-reaming on them. They try to ream me, I spin them around and ream them 10 times harder than they have ever been reamed before.

[luxuryrules]

Tickets to the maximum extent of the law for one over? Ouch. I got cited for doing a rolling stop through a stop sign, with no other cars around, on Easter Sunday, but that's just plain rough.

Every so often I have a customer who requests I read him all of the information from the book/computer screen, as they cannot see it. Kinda makes me wonder how safe it is for someone who cannot read a computer screen from a foot away to be driving. Then again, I don't have to wonder - a couple years back my boss (at the time driving a bright red 3/4 ton Ram) was railed by such a driver.