Turbocharged LS

[customtronic]

I've been talking to a company that specializes in custom turbocharger installs and kits. They're in the process of designing and then producing a turbo kit for the Lincoln LS V8. It will most likely produce about 400 Hp at the rear wheels. My '00 LS is being used as the prototype and is about 90+ days from completion. I'm trying to find out how much of a demand there will be for this kit. The company, which I won't name now, is a well know, reputable company that has been featured in magazines such as Mustangs & Fast Fords. Please feel free to forward this post to anyone that you feel might be interested in purchasing a kit like this in the future. Also, if interested, please send me an e-mail to customtronic@yahoo.com to let me know if you are interested or with any questions. Thanks...Steve

[pro-five-oh]

Hmm, I got some questions! smile.gif

How much boost is gonna be on tap?

What turbo are you using?

Any fuel or engine mods going with to make 400hp?

When will you have dyno numbers???

[JustinMarkVII]

And, since you're in Nashville, can I see your car?! :D

[351CJ]

There appears to be a number of LS owners who would like a turbo on their LS V8.

A couple of people have actually done it, but without much success. The primary problems are that the LS V8 has a pretty high compression ratio (10.55:1 for 2000 - 2002, 10.75:1 for 2003- 2004).

But an even bigger problem is that the LS does not use the same old computer engine controls that most other Ford engines use. So far no one has been able to crack the PCM code on the LS PCM and Ford has not been willing help anyone crack it either (although they were supposed to work with Saleen on this for the Saleen T-Bird). Without access to the PCM code, it will be impossible to re-map the engine parameters to accomodate any reasonable level of boost. The limited parameter tuning available through the ODB-II port would most likely only reslt in a 20 HP or so gain.

So if this outfit is really able to do a proper LS tubo conversion, let the world know.

[pro-five-oh]

quote:Originally posted by 351CJ:
A couple of people have actually done it, but without much success. The primary problems are that the LS V8 has a pretty high compression ratio (10.55:1 for 2000 - 2002, 10.75:1 for 2003- 2004).

I was wondering what the CRs were, and they are a bit high for any forced induction. I assume they have cast pistons like all the other Ford V8s (save for the supercharged Jags, Cobras, and Lightnings) so the boost will have to be kept low too.

I really hope this works out, it will bring a lot more people into Lincolns that would have otherwise looked to German and Japanese cars instead.

[jonota]

Is there something that I haven't heard about with this engine. Most efi systems work the same from what I've seen... as long as the addition of boost and subsequent power increase didn't overtax the fuel system it should be able to perform just as other supercharged engines. 10.5 is about the same as an LT1 which quite commonly gets supercharged, generally known to take 6 lbs unintercooled, and 8 lbs intercooled. An adjustable fuel pressure regulator/bigger injectors/bigger fuel pump and some timing retard (which could be handled outside the computer) should be able to put you around the 400 mark I would think?

[351CJ]

quote:Originally posted by customtronic:
I've been talking to a company that specializes in custom turbocharger installs and kits. ...................
My '00 LS is being used as the prototype and is about 90+ days from completion.

It's been 196 days since your post customtronic.

Just wondering what happend. Is it finished? How is it running? Any HP #'s?

[Desert Stallion]

They built it, ran it, made 35xHP, then the motor suffered extreme detonation from the high compression ratio and cracked a couple pistons.

And the project was abandoned due to lack of interest long before the prototype had even been completed.

I don't know for sure, just speculating based on past projects of this kind on nan-mainstream vehicles.

[Quik LS]

any update customtronic????????

[ntec]

It's not a problem anything is possible but just know that if you don't have money to burn this is not a realistic project since you'll be doing alot from scratch ,trial & error so if your cool wiyh it go for it.

2k ls6 coming out of my garage soon I had enough of my Isuzu pickup winter beater :D

[pepsi2185]

He said his vehicle is the prototype, so either he has over 5-10k invested in his ls or he is less one lincoln ls. I was hoping for numbers too. Too many tricked out bimmers and civics. Ive heard of a supercharged ls, i wonder how that came out?

[ April 17, 2004: Message edited by: pepsi2185 ]

[JAAB]

That sounds great! I would be interested, assuming the price was decent. smile.gif

[AceFrehley03]

*insert cricket chirp here*

[Quik LS]

We have heard lots of this talk on the other forums - since no one has reversed engineered the LS's PCM any of these kind of mods will not work.

BTW - the engineers say the trannie will be good up to 350hp.

[customtronic]

Sorry for the long delay. The project hasn't been started due to a few reasons. I'm active duty Army and have spent about 400 days overseas since the war started, the company that claims they can do this custom turbo kit is about 1600 miles from my house and I really don't have the time to bring the car there and leave it for 2 months, and lastly and most important, I'm not sure what I'd do if there was a problem and they had to fix or tune something later on. I can't exactly ship the car another 1600 miles to get them to look at it. I spent several hours on the phone with the owner of this company and he really seems to know what he's talking about but I'm still a little reluctant to start this project.

[Quik LS]

since the PCM hasn't been crack (that I know of) there is no way to control the spark, the fuel, and the air - so no supercharger, no turbo, no chips...

the other issue is that the engine is already at high compression - as 351CJ stated earlier in the thread.

[jonota]

there is still room for a small PSI turbo/blower, and the computer would not need to be modded. For the LT1 F-bodies, which are 10.5:1 CR, one guy put together a turbo kit that successfully ran 450+rwhp without computer modification. keep us up to date customtronic, and thanks for keeping us safe. I'm in the navy in Hawaii, haven't been home in over a year, so I know your pain!

Jonota