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[90LSC]

Hello all!!! I found this site today. I am glad to find others that believe in the Mark VII.....I see that FLA-LSCSE just put a GT-40 intake on his Mark. I have heard conflicting info about speed density. Most folks think you HAVE to go to mass air. Anyway, I know a guy with a never used never unpacked Cobra intake, and he will sell it to me for !!cheap!!. Will I have problems if I make the switch? All info and advice is greatly accepted. Later

[FLA-LSCSE]

Welcome!
Well I personally think that the Cobra intake is one of the best upgrades you can do to these cars.The most important one is gears,gears,gears.Oh and did I mention gears?
The small block Ford by design is not very efficient so any thing you can do to help it breathe will considerably help.Some of the more common mods are to remove the factory air box silencer and add a K&N air filter.
Also adding underdrive pulleys is helpful,as is any improvement you can make to exhaust system.Good luck and enjoy
Dave

BTW my car is STILL speed density...
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[90LSC]

Thanks for the reply. I've owned the car for 2 yrs now. I have done a lot of research on the 5.0 HO but books and real world does not always agree.....I have already lowered the car(figured that one out on my own), added a Crane PS-91 coil, put in 3:55 gears, K&N panel filter with a Mustang inlet tube that does not neck down. Tried to lose the silencer but it looks like I may have to remove the wheelwell to do so. I'll get to it some day soon.....Really glad to find a Mark VII site. Will likely "talk" to all of you soon. Later

[Lscman]

Howdy! If you're interested in handling, you might try performance shocks and 1-5/16" '87-'88 Turbo Coupe Tbird front swaybar and ADDCo #415 rear 7/8" swaybar. A higher stall converter is real nice with the GT-40 setup. Bigger normally aspirated breathing in motors under 350 cubes trade precious streetable low RPM grunt for high RPM power. This why some choose the supercharger route with the small 5.0 motor, especially in such a heavy chassis. They are better matched to the AOD shifting characteristics too. Another benefit is you can unbolt the blower kit in an afternoon and sell it to a Mustang owner for top dollar on ebay etc. GT40ized Lincolns have poor resale potential, perhaps less than without the mods. Just something to consider. Good luck whichever way you go.

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Rick, Road Track Terror in my '88 Mark VII LSC. See ya at Northeast Events! Pgh, PA

[DaKat]

What NOT to do to your Lincoln --->
http://www.lincolnsonline.com/image01a.jpg
Eeew - makes me wanna hurl just lookin' at it!

[90LSC]

Say DaKat, that is indeed ugly. Proof that not all people should be allowed to drive!!!....There is a poor misguided soul here in Dallas that disabled his suspension on his Mark VII 'cause he thinks it is cool to scrape the bubblegum off the streets. I've also seen a couple of Mark VIIIs that the front only is disabled AND THEY DRIVE THEM LIKE THAT ON PURPOSE. Crazy I am, stupid I am not.

[DaKat]

The picture doesn't tell the entire story (unfortunately, there was more!) The car, of course, had a lighting "system" around the license plate (and maybe elsewhere, but I must admit I was kinda too grossed out to notice much else) and well as all the fancy "design" work - notice whatever the heck it is on the bumper???
http://www.lincolnsonline.com/ubb/frown.gif
Poor Lincoln . . .

[FLA-LSCSE]

quote:Originally posted by Lscman:
<clippped message>...GT40ized Lincolns have poor resale potential, perhaps less than without the mods. Just something to consider. Good luck whichever way you go.



While I will agree that the resale value will not be the same...I bought this car with the intention of modifying it and keeping it.The blower route is the easiest and quickest way to make hp but is also a very expensive one.I chose to go with small mods that I could afford with the intention of adding a blower in the future.For now I will go the nitrous route 'cuz the car is still 5% racing 95% street driven.This way I can have fun at the track and still take the kids around town http://www.lincolnsonline.com/ubb/smile.gif


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[BMNLSC]

Hey 90LSC,

Welcome to the forum..and good luck with your modifications.

Cya,
BILL

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[90LSC]

Lscman, yes I am interested in handling. I have already switched to poly bushings on the front sway bar. Thanks for the tip on larger bars.....I am the type that RARELY throws anything away. IF I sell the Mark I will put the original stuff back on, then sell the hi-po stuff. Really thankful for the response guys...

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[90LSC]

One more thing....I'm in the market for one or more good/great condition BBS style wheels. Please let me know if anyone has some for sale or can point me in the right direction. I have a bite from another forum but things donot always work out like we want. Thanks again

[Avu3]

I too am looking for a set of 16x7 BBS style wheels - so if you get two sets, let me know.
My dad's are a little chewed up on his 90LSC

Thanks!

Scott

[Lscman]

Too bad you don't live in PA. The Ford Carlisle show is loaded with wheels for dirt cheap. I've seen 4 BBS's with tires for $125 asking price. They're everywhere at the event, since they don't fit many cars and more Mark's of that vintage are being wrecked and salvaged.

[Lscman]

Nitrous is a great option, if you like short duration power. Just keep in mind that GT-40 power is expensive too. On the light Mustang with closer ratio stick, it's a big benefit. On the heavy Mark and AOD tranny, losing torque has drawbacks on upshift and at part throttle. A complete GT-40 conversion is not cheap and all parts are necessary to provide balanced breathing. If you do the complete swap which involves computer, injectors, MAF, TB, upper intake, heads and cam, expect LESS than a 0.3 second 1/4 mile gain. The mere 0.3 second advantage the '93 Cobra has over a '93 LX is well documented and the driveability and streetable torque of the regular HO motor is noticeable. A blower can give you about 1-1.5 second gain with NO other changes. The Cobra setup is a dog until you hit 3000 RPM and better suited to light stickshift cars.

[FLA-LSCSE]

Rick,
With the addition of the intake and porting the stock heads I picked up a 1/2 second on my et and 4 mph now that does not sound like much but keep in mind that the car is still SD and has stock cam gears,converter and is also streetable.I did not upgrade the injectors or convert to MAF and so far I have only had small installation related gremlins...namely vac.leaks and minor ground wire issues.This car feels faster and runs just as smooth as it did stock the only noticeable difference to me is at the track and it is the fact that I have to shift about 500 rpm higher than when it was stock.
On a good note fuel economy has not suffered as far as I can tell.I like the idea of having a blower but the cost is out of my pocket for a while plus the nitrous is as you said a short term power adder which is really what I wanted.As far as the GT-40 system being expensive that all depends on what you buy.My intake was $400 with the port work and extrude honing already done on it.The head porting cost only my time and the price of a quality gasket set.
My total investment to date has been about $1100 and that includes the nitrous kit but not the gears or converter.A 5 spd would be nice but this is a daily driven car and I like NOT having to shift it all the time.I am sorry for the lenghty post.
Dave

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Dave
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