D3-based Lincoln Movie

[pro-five-oh]

http://www.blueovalnews.com/media/lincoln.d3prototype.wmv

Here's your spy shot of the next Lincoln sedan, probably will be called the Continental if Lincoln has any sense left in them. :)

Not sure if I like it or not, a little plump, but a cool car nonetheless.

[megaforcer]

Its not that bad looking, but I have a feeling that the whole advertising campaign is gonna be around the headlights :)

[Joker_Six_T_Nine]

Its not that bad looking, but I have a feeling that the whole advertising campaign is gonna be around the headlights :)
it looks cool, had a nice aggressive look to it, but megaforcer is probably right, even that video was almost all based on the headlights..., why do the headlights seem to come on in a stepping pattern?

[pro-five-oh]

Its not that bad looking, but I have a feeling that the whole advertising campaign is gonna be around the headlights :)

Not a bad idea, considering all they got now as far as print media is comparing the Zephyr to the Golden Gate bridge, Empire State Building and other things that were better designed than it is.

http://towncenter.pugmire.com/images/Picture/2005/September/lg_2006_Zephyr-02.jpg

[Conti94]

I like it, Should be called the Continental to be a perfect 10 in my book.

[OneWayStreet]

Looks OK, I'd rather see it live.

[RJ Sclafani]

Looks like TSX and Solara had a kid...

[NYC LS8]

Not too shabby

[OneWayStreet]

Its not that bad looking, but I have a feeling that the whole advertising campaign is gonna be around the headlights :)

IIRC, Chrysler sorta did this when they introduced the Neon. Claimed the front end "smiled".

[2manymarks]

The advertising commercials will have to be at least as good as the Mitsubishi Eclipse though-too cool! (I would like to see more of the drummers though)

[tribaldragon]

it looks cool, had a nice aggressive look to it, but megaforcer is probably right, even that video was almost all based on the headlights..., why do the headlights seem to come on in a stepping pattern?

Progressive cornering lights?:confused:

[nailfoot]

Progressive cornering lights?:confused:

I am wondering if the stepping lights are just a gimick. Maybe the production vehicles will not include them. I can't really see how the current configuration could be legal in all 50 states, Canada, Europe, and whereever else they plan to sell this vehicle.

But, maybe it is. If those turn out to be just the signal lights, that would probably be okay. Years ago, there was a car that did something like that with the rear turn signals, but I can't remember what the thing was!

[megaforcer]

You can read more about these lights here: http://www.blueovalnews.com/index.php?categoryid=12&p2_articleid=73 (http://www.blueovalnews.com/index.php?categoryid=12&p2_articleid=73)

They are some new LED technology.

[Dereck]

Hi Megadude

Nice article but I think you will find the first use of halogen headlights was on the Citroen DS in 1967 beating Lincoln by 12 years, it also had headlights that moved with the steering to point around corners, beating Lincoln by 38 years :D

Regards

Dereck

[pro-five-oh]

Hi Megadude

Nice article but I think you will find the first use of halogen headlights was on the Citroen DS in 1967 beating Lincoln by 12 years, it also had headlights that moved with the steering to point around corners, beating Lincoln by 38 years :D

Regards

Dereck

Not in America, Dereck. ;) The Versailles, 1984 Mark, 1995 Mark had lighting revolutions not ever seen before on new cars sold in America. Sure you guys got 'em earlier, but America is still cool. :boink:

[Silver Cobra]

The car has kind of a Euro-inspired looks. I wonder if Volvo had any input in the design? We'll just have to see what happens :)

[aristo1963]

actually dereck had the tucker been produced for the masses the prototype had swiveling lights at the wheels and the tried for production model had a moving center light.


The Tucker 48 pioneered automotive features and ideas that became standard later.
The Tucker automobile had many advanced, innovative features, from its fastback shape to its swiveling center headlight and independent four-wheel suspension. Enhanced passenger safety was one of the Tucker's principal features. It had a pop-out windshield, padded dashboard, and a place where the front-seat passenger could crouch in the event of a collision.
the engine was based off an aircooled flat six helicopter engine.
all these marvels should/would have been in the 1948 debut model "tucker48" or the tucker torpedo as it became known.

take care and i hope all is well in our 51st state
john

[pro-five-oh]

That's right! The Torpedo's center headlight turned with the wheels! Awful shame that car never made it to mass-production, with that kind of forward thinking in America we wouldn't have the current manufacturing crisis.

http://www.bilnorge.no/export/bb_17265.jpeg

[Joker_Six_T_Nine]

That's right! The Torpedo's center headlight turned with the wheels! Awful shame that car never made it to mass-production, with that kind of forward thinking in America we wouldn't have the current manufacturing crisis.

http://www.bilnorge.no/export/bb_17265.jpeg
always loved the Tuckers... its too bad what happened with him and his story

[pro-five-oh]

always loved the Tuckers... its too bad what happened with him and his story

Worst part is, most (if not all) of that story was true.

I heard that some hot-rod shop was going to start making fiberglass bodies of Tuckers for street rods. If that ever happened, that would be the coolest Rod out there.

Next to a '57 Mark II Rod, of course. ;)

[Vitas]

Does anyone see the traditional Aston Martin front fender air scoop behind the front wheel? It should be lower. Now we need a mesh lower grille.


http://www.blueovalnews.com/images/lincoln.d3prototype.jpg

[pro-five-oh]

Is it just me, or does this new Conti (my guess) look a whole like Ford of Europe's IOSIS Concept? Either way, it sure is nice to see Ford making some radical design moves. I wonder if Toyota will start coping us (America) once our wild designs hit the road. They can't rip on the S-class Mercedes forever. ;)

http://www.autoblog.it/uploads/ford_iosis_anteriore.jpghttp://www.carpages.co.uk/ford/ford_images/ford_iosis_31_08_05.jpg

[Vitas]

Is it just me, or does this new Conti (my guess) look a whole like Ford of Europe's IOSIS Concept? Either way, it sure is nice to see Ford making some radical design moves. I wonder if Toyota will start coping us (America) once our wild designs hit the road. They can't rip on the S-class Mercedes forever. ;)


I can see it. I think the c pillar, from the limited view we have of the new Lincoln from the front, looks similar to the Maserati Quattroporte.

Below is the IOSIS rear; throw a full Continental trunk lid on it with the license plate bracket moved below into the bumper, and we could have a new classic Continental.

Now, if we need to have a foreign car platform, how about going with the Jag XJ-8 platform, with the great engines?


http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/2423-3.jpg

[pro-five-oh]

Now, if we need to have a foreign car platform, how about going with the Jag XJ-8 platform, with the great engines?


That would be nice, but no way Ford's PAG division will give it up. Lincoln has been officially committed to the hypercompetitive mid-luxury hell market, and its chassis' are proof of that.

Course all they gotta do is make a Cougar or Mark IX on the Mustang chassis and mid-luxury won't be hell for much longer. G35s and Lexus IS's will get their asses handed to them in a REAL hurry.

[Vitas]

That would be nice, but no way Ford's PAG division will give it up. Lincoln has been officially committed to the hypercompetitive mid-luxury hell market, and its chassis' are proof of that.

Course all they gotta do is make a Cougar or Mark IX on the Mustang chassis and mid-luxury won't be hell for much longer. G35s and Lexus IS's will get their asses handed to them in a REAL hurry.

But now the money has been spent on the Jag platform design, and there is very little expense left to carry it over to Lincoln.

$3K? $5K?

[Nick]

But now the money has been spent on the Jag platform design, and there is very little expense left to carry it over to Lincoln.

$3K? $5K?

I think the cost is not in the adaptation, but rather the materials and added manufacturing cost. Aluminum and such isn't cheap compared to steel. It also probably has different manufacturing requirements that Wixom might not be able to handle. Would the Lincoln buyer be willing to pony up for a car costing closer to an import when the overall build quality is still lower?

Our manufacturing quality died in the Second World War. We took the losses to get the big numbers we needed quickly. Then, we didn't pay any attention to the imports and we sat on our laurels expecting it to be a pasing fad. Now, we've been playing catch up and losing. We used to make things better, but now, we have to relearn one piece flow, just in time manufacturing, and the associated functions. We had it, but we let it fall to the wayside.

I don't mind the Iosis. It'd be a nice GT car if those RX8 rear doors were hacked off.

[pro-five-oh]

I think the cost is not in the adaptation, but rather the materials and added manufacturing cost. Aluminum and such isn't cheap compared to steel. It also probably has different manufacturing requirements that Wixom might not be able to handle. Would the Lincoln buyer be willing to pony up for a car costing closer to an import when the overall build quality is still lower?
You mentioned Wixom. Its gone, forget about it.

Townies will be made next to Crown Vics.
Contis will be made next to 500s.
Zephs are already "Hecho en Mexico" like the Fusion. The Aviator will follow suit.
The LS is dead.
Navis and Mark LTs are already made next to Ford trucks.
The Ford GT's replacement can be made anywhereWixom is a lame duck factory. Lincolns will no longer be made in a Lincoln plant, and you can bet that they won't be made in England next to Jags anytime soon. Ford would rather invest money in their current Ford chassis for Lincoln, and only a new wave of management or a collassal failure of the CD3/D3 chassis will change their minds.

[Dereck]

.......and you can bet that they won't be made in England next to Jags anytime soon....

Hi Pro-Five-Oh

Maybe next to Land Rovers at Coventry then :D :D

Regards

Dereck

[pro-five-oh]

Hi Pro-Five-Oh

Maybe next to Land Rovers at Coventry then :D :D

Regards

Dereck

Would the proper British allow for such a travesty of their automotive culture? Then again, they made those horrid Honda Rover/Sterlings so I guess anything is possible. :D:D:D

[Vitas]

Lincolns will no longer be made in a Lincoln plant, and you can bet that they won't be made in England next to Jags anytime soon. Ford would rather invest money in their current Ford chassis for Lincoln, and only a new wave of management or a collassal failure of the CD3/D3 chassis will change their minds.

Nobody said that a Lincoln on a Jag XJ-8 platform would need to be built next to Jags, although maybe Jags someday will be built next to Lincolns, here in America.

The Zephyr is built on a Mazda platform, and they aren't built in Japan, they are built in Mexico.

I think it would be a real "Continental" concept for a Lincoln to be built on a Jag platform. Very International. Way, wicked, cool.