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thomas89gt
June 25th, 2006, 05:49 PM
hello my name is Thomas and i am new to the site!
i have a 1986 lincoln continental 302 with a auto trans. would like to know the horsepower and tq of this enige from the factory. and will it run good in a 89 mustang with a 5 speed.cant find alot of info for this motor.

v8_dave
June 25th, 2006, 05:52 PM
Check out www.msnauto.com and go to used vehicle secion and go under prices and specs. I think its like 130HP and 210 Torque but check out that website as it is a great resource.

thomas89gt
June 25th, 2006, 05:58 PM
Check out www.msnauto.com and go to used vehicle secion and go under prices and specs. I think its like 130HP and 210 Torque but check out that website as it is a great resource.do they have roller cams

gadget73
June 25th, 2006, 08:14 PM
1986 should be a blazing 150 hp and 225 ft/lb torque I believe. Yes, they are a roller cam motor. No, it won't run all that great in an 89 Mustang. You can, however, swap the heads and camshaft from the Mustang engine and get pretty much the same thing as what came stock in the Mustang. If you're looking for a donor motor car, look for an 88 or newer Mark VII. They have the HO engine already.

Stratfellow3
June 30th, 2006, 09:21 AM
actually i did quite a lot of research on it and eventually found numbers specific to that yr and engine size and it was claimed to have 150hp and 275 ft-lbs

pro-five-oh
June 30th, 2006, 09:59 AM
That motor is a turd, you don't want it in a Mustang. The cam, heads, injectors, upper intake all need to be changed. Check out the 5.0HO conversion for Lincoln Town Cars in our TECH section to learn more than you ever wanna know about this motor.

Nick
June 30th, 2006, 03:28 PM
Actually, torque is 250 if I remember right.

thomas89gt
July 9th, 2006, 01:52 PM
I would like to think every one that helped me out. its not often you go to a website and the people there help you out. so i thank you again. now the good stuff, I bought the mustang with the impressin that it was a 89 mustang 5.0. this was my first stang so i had the blinders on. But I have change every thing but the cam and heads. thinking about building a motor from the local pick your part. think of grabing a 90 mark7 5.0 motor. if there is a better motor out there in a different car plz let me know. thanks for all the help

thomas

OVERKILL
July 10th, 2006, 12:25 AM
Yeah, grab the engine from a 96-2000 Ford Explorer V8.

They have the GT40 style intake, and GT40 (or GT40P late 97+) heads on them which are WAY better than the stock Mustang heads.

With the stock Mustang camshaft, new valve springs and some 1.7 Roller Rockers, you'll have a solid performer for very little money.

gadget73
July 10th, 2006, 12:33 AM
Just a note, the 97+ heads require a specific header to mate up to them and clear the spark plugs. It runs about $240 from Ford Racing. The 96 engines can run any old header for a Ford smallblock.

OVERKILL
July 10th, 2006, 01:30 AM
Not 100% accurate. You can run a number of "other" headers, including the stock manifolds from the Explorer if you so desire. The MAC Mustang headers will also clear them. Some people will use whatever they have and run some short plugs on the affected cylinders.

Regardless, they ARE more work than using the 96/Early 97 heads, which are the plain-Jane GT40 irons.

pro-five-oh
July 10th, 2006, 09:06 AM
The Mark engine is as good as a Stang engine, just with different EFI wiring. (hopefully your Stang has reusable wiring)

If you can't afford an Explorer 5.0, the Mark one is certainly good enough.

OVERKILL
July 10th, 2006, 10:24 AM
Yes, the Mark VIII 302HO is the exact same engine as the 302HO found in the Mustangs. The Explorer motor makes more power though.

thomas89gt
July 10th, 2006, 11:48 PM
thanks for the info!!! will post back after this sunday, hopeful it will start after 7 months in the garage. i just want a stock motor with all the bolt on.!!!!No power adder here all motor!!!!!! hopeing for 360 hp at the flywheel and 310hp to the wheels, with a least 320 ft tq. plz tell me if i am wrong.also is it worth it to use the crank and rods out of the 86 continental 302?
Thanks Thomas

OVERKILL
July 11th, 2006, 12:03 AM
Use the entire Explorer engine and the front dressing off the Mustang engine, as well as the Mustang cam. You won't get the power numbers you are seeking though, not without some serious head porting and a custom cam.

gadget73
July 11th, 2006, 10:53 PM
Do an EFI 351 swap. You'll get the numbers then.

OVERKILL
July 11th, 2006, 11:03 PM
Yeah, a 351 with heads, cam and intake. Its not going to be cheap, they don't make 300+HP "Out of the Box".

Nick
July 12th, 2006, 12:12 PM
The '85 Continental won't have the forged pistons and rods of the HO. I forgot if the crank is forged.

OVERKILL
July 12th, 2006, 12:15 PM
In the HO? No, the crank is cast.

And the pistons are only forged up to early 92. Late 92 and 93 they were Hypereutectic.

Regardless, the block will break before the rotating assembly does on the forged-piston engines.

bighoss88lx
July 31st, 2006, 08:35 PM
Hi Thomas. I didnt know you posted over here. Well I have a question about it now.

I got it running for him finally but it runs the best when the firing order is in the HO firing order. It wont run at all with the non HO firing order. This engine should have the old 302 firing order rather than the 351 firing order correct? It runs as if a couple of the injectors are not firing, rough with no power, but it starts up easy and it was too late to mess around with anything else.

OVERKILL
July 31st, 2006, 10:55 PM
When engine did you guys end up using then?

bighoss88lx
August 1st, 2006, 08:23 PM
When engine did you guys end up using then?

A supposed 86 Continental 302.....But I am at a loss as to why it runs with the 351 firing order and not the old 302 order. Maybe someone put a HO cam in it...I dunno.:confused:

gadget73
August 1st, 2006, 11:05 PM
Sure it wasn't a Mark VII engine? 86 LSC motor would have used the HO / 351 firing order. Its also possible someone stuck an HO or 351 cam in it. Did a 351 swap in a car, couldn't make it run. It had a 302 cam in it *shrug*

bighoss88lx
August 2nd, 2006, 08:36 PM
He got me the numbers off of the block, E7TE, so I assume its an 87 truck block. Did they come in anything else? Are they roller blocks? Any other info that I may need will be helpful. Thanks.

OVERKILL
August 2nd, 2006, 08:48 PM
E7TE blocks were used in the Mustang and the Lincolns, Vic's, Marquis....etc.

bighoss88lx
August 2nd, 2006, 09:21 PM
So it should have roller lifters?

OVERKILL
August 2nd, 2006, 09:30 PM
Or at least be roller capable.

bighoss88lx
August 2nd, 2006, 09:45 PM
Thanks man.

OVERKILL
August 2nd, 2006, 10:09 PM
No problem.

thomas89gt
August 9th, 2006, 02:08 PM
well the car runs now, would like to THANK:) everyone for your help