To do list, gimme some feed back yall

[Mr Wiggl3s]

Ok, so if i do get a townie that fits my standards, ill do the following to it, in this order

20'' Wire Rims on the handkooks 255/35/20 (Still debating)
16'' Turbine snow tires lol, gotta happen
Brake upgrad 11'' drums (still a mabey) drilled rotors + calipers up front (still lookin for info)

Then we get to the fun stuff:
Cold air intake
Cool air radiator
New shocks + coils to get that smooth ride
Possibly entire exhaust, for sure y pipe + muffler
Clean all air everything

Remote:
Starter
Doors

Interior:
Sterio upgrade (2x pioneer 6x9 + 2 5'' up front)
Subs + amps
Push button heated seats
Chop driver and passanger seat to add 20cubic in extra room
2 xbox 360's on 7 inch headrest monitors
Add little compartment behind armrest for controllers
~Possibly black trimed white reapoulsterd seats~

Well this all totals up to like $4000+ but its going to be damn cool, and hopefully will teach me some stuff

Not to mention some surprises, imma keep to myself :) , and trust me yall aint never seen nothing like this

But ya, tell me what yall think i should/should not do, why, just looking for feedback here

[JoshMcMadMac]

If you upgrade brakes, get disc brakes to replace the drums.
What's a cool air radiator?
What is chopping a seat?
Why do you need two game consoles?

And good luck showing this crowd something new; it's all been done before. Good luck in general, you've cut off quite a bit of work for yourself. I did the same with my car when I decided to make it custom, and it's a great reward to see the end result.

[Mr Wiggl3s]

If you upgrade brakes, get disc brakes to replace the drums.
What's a cool air radiator?
What is chopping a seat?
Why do you need two game consoles?

And good luck showing this crowd something new; it's all been done before. Good luck in general, you've cut off quite a bit of work for yourself. I did the same with my car when I decided to make it custom, and it's a great reward to see the end result.
Ya... its all been done before, but i still think i can do it better :D

Cool air, its a brand name radiator
By chopping the seats, theres like a little lip in the back, and i think it was put there so that nobody would put their legs under the seat, but what im going to do is take all that off, and round it off, and tuck everything in under there
I need 2 so that 2 people can play on their own TV :mad:, its kinda lame, but instead of a 4.5'' tv they will get a 7'' each

[Four Eyed Stangs]

Drilled rotors on a street car are a waste.
You'll just provide extra area for cracks to form.

In-car video is too ricerish for me and just adds to the steal-it allure

20" wires-- blech!

.

[Mr Wiggl3s]

You dont like wires? Why not? They are hot stuff my friend

[Shrewsbury]

Take that $4k and find a nice late model 7 (or early model 8) with a few bucks to spare for odds and ends and then you will have yourself a nice big TC for cruisin' AND a sporty Lincoln to boot! Oh yeah! :cool:

[Mr Wiggl3s]

I only got 2k right now, i plan to do this over this year in college

[gadget73]

Also not a fan of wires, and you should also know that the 16" turbines most talk about are LSC wheels that need a spacer. Lots of other wheels fit these cars tho, pretty much anything from the 90s onward could be a 16" wheel. The bolt pattern and offset is the same up to 2002, and you can use Vic, Grand Marq or Townie wheels with no spacers. If you don't mind spacers, lots of other wheels become optional. Some Exploder wheels also fit, Ranger wheels fit, probably others too.

If the car isn't overheating, you don't need a ginormous aftermarket radiator. My HO doesn't get hot even with a stock 1 core radiator, tho if I did need to replace it I'd probably find a 2 or 3 core aftermarket replacement. Installed a 4 core in what was dubbed "Project SuperLinc" and its a disgustingly big heavy thing thats way overkill. The owner plans to tow with it, and he wanted no chance of the car overheating.

If you're gonna do exhaust, go duals. Frees up a couple horsepower and single exhaust is poopy anyway.

The front rotors came off the SuperLinc when it was upgraded to 98-02 big brakes. I don't know if it stopped any better with them than one would with stock rotors.

11" rear drums aren't the most common. They are better than the 10" rears, but they came only on police cars, tow package cars, limo prep cars, and some station wagons, mostly tow package wagons. For the trouble involved, you'd really do better with rear disc brakes from a 91-97 car, since they're a lot easier to find the parts for. Also, as you've learned, installing drum brake shoes is crap :)

[Four Eyed Stangs]

In AZ TC with AC and HO conversion: 2-core brass. Works great.

My 500 rwhp blown 331 Mustang: 3-core brass. Works great.

+++ on the duals. It also sound great!

[luxuryrules]

At the very most, go 18" on those wire wheels. 20" wheels are asking for a shopping cart-like ride. You're just going for bling factor - keep it tasteful! My opinion anyways. I had a set of 15" 120 spokes on my 87, they looked great, and the trick is to make sure you have whitewalls which really complete the look.
For your brakes, I'll second the others. Just go disc all around. I looked at that 11" drum upgrade before too, and after some very detailed discussion with these guys I think it turned out easier to do the disc conversion - need different backing plates for those drums. Look through the archives to get some more details.
Your local Walker dealer can get the factory dual parts at a reasonable price. If you get like Super Turbos or some other high flow mufflers on there with that factory H pipe, you'll net a few ponies plus the car just looks correct with two pipes out the back instead of just one.
While you're at it, look into a police interceptor sway bar (or station wagon one I think also serves as an upgrade) and seriously consider an HO conversion.

[Mr Wiggl3s]

Nice suggestions yall, as far as the engine and the 5.0 goes, in my college im going to be working with a 5 0 and were going to take it apart, study it, put it back togather, take it apart, so forth and so on, so when i get done ill either put it in something eles, or if i still like this townie ill put in it there.

I really still am cosidering 4 disk brakes after working on my drums right now, damn im so mad from those to, yall wont belive

I will consider a HO, i frogot about that, and college will make that about 100000 times easier

[Taran]

arent lowering it?

get a nice air ride system....that allows u to adjust it... low for the show... high...for the incredible ride...

u should get some street wheels...along with the wires...o and Daiton..is a good wire wheel company....

[87 town]

arent lowering it?

get a nice air ride system....that allows u to adjust it... low for the show... high...for the incredible ride...

u should get some street wheels...along with the wires...o and Daiton..is a good wire wheel company....

I'm gonna jump in and out here for this one...
Downtown Chicago area, "Rush Street", summertime last year. Hot spot with Clubs, Celeb's and sweet cars.
An 80's TC ends up in front of me while I'm drivin down the road. Stereo boomin, pumped up suspension (just like the ones put on the 60's Chevys'...sort of talkin to ya, goin up and down and slidin round in a smooth sweet way). Three or four tone paint job. Overlapping lines and rectangular boxes, all in light blues and greys.. Very expensive and tight paint job. Super clean all the way around and maxed out large chrome wheels with chrome pipes. Looked like you could eat off the rear axle. Super clean.. I'm followin this car, drewlin...never before saw such a pimped out TC. Finally got next to her to check out at a glimpse the interior that looked new. (Don't remember what color. there were a few guys in the car, didn't want to stare tooo much). Every peice of chrome on the exterior looked brand new. Had the tall chrome runner along the sides. (I forgot what it's called. I have the same).
The "most" super clean, pimped out and sexy TC I have "ever" seen or could have ever imagined.
I stayed with her for as long as I could till she turned off. All I could do was think about how much money and time they must have put into that ride. I would guess that the paint job alone was thousands...It was AMAZING...
For me, if I was gonna do it, (pimp out a TC), I would do it that way...Blew my mind. Never saw her again.

[Sixlitre]

Ok, so if i do get a townie that fits my standards, ill do the following to it, in this order

20'' Wire Rims on the handkooks 255/35/20 (Still debating)
16'' Turbine snow tires lol, gotta happen
Brake upgrad 11'' drums (still a mabey) drilled rotors + calipers up front (still lookin for info)

Then we get to the fun stuff:
Cold air intake
Cool air radiator
New shocks + coils to get that smooth ride
Possibly entire exhaust, for sure y pipe + muffler
Clean all air everything

Remote:
Starter
Doors

Interior:
Sterio upgrade (2x pioneer 6x9 + 2 5'' up front)
Subs + amps
Push button heated seats
Chop driver and passanger seat to add 20cubic in extra room
2 xbox 360's on 7 inch headrest monitors
Add little compartment behind armrest for controllers
~Possibly black trimed white reapoulsterd seats~

Well this all totals up to like $4000+ but its going to be damn cool, and hopefully will teach me some stuff

Not to mention some surprises, imma keep to myself :) , and trust me yall aint never seen nothing like this

But ya, tell me what yall think i should/should not do, why, just looking for feedback here


Do the rims dead last

You can do practically EVERYTHING else first and for less money. The rims will blow your nest egg and you'll have nuthin' left to do anything else.

You asked

Sixlitre

[Mr Wiggl3s]

The rims and tires are only going to be about 900-1000, i was thinking about the starter and the power locks first

[Taran]

here are some cars:
http://www.daytonwirewheels.com/images/gallery/lowrider/low_0018.jpg

http://www.daytonwirewheels.com/images/gallery/lowrider/low_0021.jpg

[Mr Wiggl3s]

That bottem one would be hot if the dude got all the chrome gold plated

[Taran]

those pics are all from daytons website... just to let u know

[nailfoot]

Where are you going to get four 20" rims AND tires for $1000? Unless you get crappy, single chromed rims that will rust out within a year or two, you will spend that much on ONE corner of your ride.

My rims have been 100% on the car all the time as far as I can tell. There is NO rust on the rims at all. Now, two are curbed very badly, and still they are not rusting.

But, Enkei Tazios were $1100 each in 1996, and are still $450 each before shipping from Europe.

I think two game systems will be overkill. How many times will you even have one person playing a console in the back seat, much less two? Of course, I don't know your lifestyle, so maybe all your friends cruise in your ride. But, are you ever going to cruise for a long enough time that anyone could do any serious gaming? If you do install two, of course make sure they are linked for multiplayer action.

Remote start will be the handiest thing you ever do to your car. Once installed on my Jeep, I don't see how I went without it in the Winter! If the systems I go for weren't $600, I would have it on all of my cars all the time. If you go for the cheapie system, you will regret it. As I have said many times, if you buy the cheapie system and park where you can't see the car, you have to walk out to it anyway to make sure it actually did start!

I agree with Sixlitre. Rims should be DEAD last on the project, unless you have plenty of cash and get it all done at once. Note I said "cash". IMHO, it would be very UNWISE to max out the credit cards and personal bank loans for this type of thing.

[Mr Wiggl3s]

Where are you going to get four 20" rims AND tires for $1000? Unless you get crappy, single chromed rims that will rust out within a year or two, you will spend that much on ONE corner of your ride.

My rims have been 100% on the car all the time as far as I can tell. There is NO rust on the rims at all. Now, two are curbed very badly, and still they are not rusting.

But, Enkei Tazios were $1100 each in 1996, and are still $450 each before shipping from Europe.

I think two game systems will be overkill. How many times will you even have one person playing a console in the back seat, much less two? Of course, I don't know your lifestyle, so maybe all your friends cruise in your ride. But, are you ever going to cruise for a long enough time that anyone could do any serious gaming? If you do install two, of course make sure they are linked for multiplayer action.

Remote start will be the handiest thing you ever do to your car. Once installed on my Jeep, I don't see how I went without it in the Winter! If the systems I go for weren't $600, I would have it on all of my cars all the time. If you go for the cheapie system, you will regret it. As I have said many times, if you buy the cheapie system and park where you can't see the car, you have to walk out to it anyway to make sure it actually did start!

I agree with Sixlitre. Rims should be DEAD last on the project, unless you have plenty of cash and get it all done at once. Note I said "cash". IMHO, it would be very UNWISE to max out the credit cards and personal bank loans for this type of thing.
Ebay is where i was gonna get the rims, idk anywhere eles, to get them. I dont like shopping on the internet for expensive items (ie. www.rimstore.com or tirestore.com)

As for the 2 game systems, my friends could get serious about it even before we start playing, idk if i will do 2 still though, most of the people i know are moving away for college.

And im for sure going to do the remote start, they are $200 on ebay, new, and some will replace faulty ones

[luxuryrules]

You forgot orange paint job for your TC

Thanks for the reminder Mike!

[nailfoot]

...
And im for sure going to do the remote start, they are $200 on ebay, new, and some will replace faulty ones


$200 is not too bad, but you will not get any company to install one that you did not buy from them. Even if you did, I bet they will charge $300 or more for the install.

If you plan to do it yourself...good luck. You will CERTAINLY need it.

[zardiw]

Ok, here's my idea for your ride:



wait for it















it's coming









MOON ROOF!!!...lolol :cool: ...........z

[Piper]

Sawzall the top off.

-piper

[v8_dave]

Sawzall the top off.

-piper

Great idea! You make any changes/modifications/improvements since you talked about it last Piper?

[worldkeepsakes]

Sell it!!! Buy a bike!!!

[Ivan D.]

Wiggly dude, here's a pic of a box TC with 20" too-many-to-count spoked wheels:

http://www.MyOnlineImages.com/Members/Windstream/images/20s.jpg

[Mr Wiggl3s]

Nice. That dude did something to his vynal top though

[Ivan D.]

It's cloth roof, not vinyl, but what did he do? Sunroof was an option on these cars, and cloth roofs usually came without those small windows behind the rear doors, and also without B-pilla opera lights. Seems pretty standard Signature Series TC to me man.

[Red91SiT]

Drilled rotors on a street car are a waste.
You'll just provide extra area for cracks to form.

In-car video is too ricerish for me and just adds to the steal-it allure

20" wires-- blech!

.


Not to mention, wears out the brake pads fast too.


I do think the cloth top did get redid. The top of the B-Pillar is not connected to the top part. also, where the bottom of the opera window would be, it looks like its' got some thing there.

[v8_dave]

Not to mention, wears out the brake pads fast too.


I do think the cloth top did get redid. The top of the B-Pillar is not connected to the top part. also, where the bottom of the opera window would be, it looks like its' got some thing there.

Cant get the driller rotors 'turned' either I heard. :(

[Ivan D.]

I do think the cloth top did get redid. The top of the B-Pillar is not connected to the top part. also, where the bottom of the opera window would be, it looks like its' got some thing there.
The top of the B-pillars is never connected to the main roof on the full cloth tops, never ever. The thing at the place where the opera window normally goes is just a badge.

[joedogg]

Wiggly dude, here's a pic of a box TC with 20" too-many-to-count spoked wheels:

http://www.MyOnlineImages.com/Members/Windstream/images/20s.jpg

Sweet dude! Skeletor drives a TC!

[Mr Wiggl3s]

O those are 100 spokes

[worldkeepsakes]

O those are 100 spokes

Reminds me of a bike! :p :)

[87 town]

Wiggly dude, here's a pic of a box TC with 20" too-many-to-count spoked wheels:

http://www.MyOnlineImages.com/Members/Windstream/images/20s.jpg

WOE....that is me and my car...almost... Mine is black without the custom wheels and the rear small windows. I dont have the signature series. Same cloth top and aftermarket sunroof. My top is in similar condition, from what I can tell, (loving care to keep it right), Almost looks like me in the car too, except I have a gotee....

[joedogg]

Almost looks like me in the car too, except I have a gotee....

Sorry about the Skeletor remark!

[87 town]

Sorry about the Skeletor remark!

I didn't even catch it...no offense...lol
I have a "vaguely" similar MO as the driver...but i look better...hahaha:D

[87 town]

The top of the B-pillars is never connected to the main roof on the full cloth tops, never ever. The thing at the place where the opera window normally goes is just a badge.

wait a minute... on a closer look, the factory cloth top does meet at the pillars, the same as in the pic and same as mine. I would say standard tc with factory top. but the sun roof is aftermarket. i have the same badge/logo as well in the same place.

[lairdt]

Looks like the factory sunroof to me... wide lip, deep internal gap when open due to the cloth shell. B-pillars are correct, but they have been redone.

[gadget73]

Those cloth tops were aftermarket anyway, so its hard to say what was correct. It depends on who did the top to begin with whats proper. The factory and aftermarket sunroofs are also sometimes hard to tell apart, but I've never seen a factory sunroof car with a full top. All the ones I've seen have been coach roof vinyl.

[87 town]

Looks like the factory sunroof to me... wide lip, deep internal gap when open due to the cloth shell. B-pillars are correct, but they have been redone.

Well, I think my sunroof has a label on the metal framework with a makers name on it, don't recall the name right now. But definitely not Ford or Lincoln.
My set up is "exactly" the same as the pic, but I never bought the car new so cannot say anything for positive. I always "thought" that the top including the b pillars were factory and the sunroof came aftermarket. Now, Gadget says that the full cloth tops are aftermarket. :confused: Maybe it was worked like a limo deal. Bought the car from Lincoln and then sent over to the limo makers shop?