Window motor

[Rollin6Dr]

I'm in the middle of replacing the driver's side window, the motor I got from the auto parts store didn't fit right so I am going to get a motorcraft one. Any think I should know before I go to install?

[Shrewsbury]

There are left handed and right handed versions of the gear box, but the motors are all the same. Did you get the right orientation gearbox? (assuming you bought the entire assembly)

[Rollin6Dr]

right, it was just that the bolts wouldn't fit in the new motor they were too big and the flange on the bolts was too close to the gear assembly. It didn't have the space that the oem one did.

[Shrewsbury]

I'd be tempted to just look for a better fitting bolt! OEM parts are outta sight expensive, and in my book, generally not worth it unless it's a heater core, water pump, etc, i.e., parts that are cheap anyway but a real bear to change out. Only then (again, in my opinion) is the price premium worth it. Besides, window are easy enough to fix and the power windows units are probably the worst quality OEM parts Ford ever made anyway (after Pinto rear-ends). Ford power windows are absolutely horrible in quality. :(

[Rollin6Dr]

I drilled out the hole and cut the flanges off and the god damn thing didn't line up right. So is there any MAGIC trick to it? Or is this part just not lining up?

[Rollin6Dr]

OH, and the glove box won't open anymore the right side compresses but the left side doesn't do anything it just goes down and doesn't push any thing.

[Shrewsbury]

OH, and the glove box won't open anymore the right side compresses but the left side doesn't do anything it just goes down and doesn't push any thing.

Make sure it isn't locked. :p
Once you do get it open (last resort - drill it), head to a salvage yard and get a new latch mechanism. Any Town Car, Crown Vic, or Grand Marquee of the era will fit. Ford glove-boxes are notorious for poor fit, but work great when adjusted properly. Once you get it right, baby it w/o slamming. They do well when treated well.

[Rollin6Dr]

Drill eh? lol no other way? Can't go around the back of the dash and take out the liner? Then open it by hand?

[gadget73]

Actually on a Towncar, the front and rear motors are not the same. They are also left and right side, so the motors are specific to which door you're installing them in. The front motors are also not the same as the ones from a Crown Vic. The rear motors are the same as a Vic or Grand Marq.

You might be able to get in there to pop the latch from the inside, but its gonna be a pain. See if you can pull the door towards the side that releases to see if it will move enough to let go. Don't pry it down though otherwise you'll probably rip the catch out of the dashboard.

[Rollin6Dr]

Well the motor isn't THAT much diffrent it's just the mounting bracket is a wee bit diffrent then the one I pulled out as well as the motor can, armature, and brush setup was diffrent, so I think I got the wrong part. And when I bolted it up and tryed to run it all I got was a spinning motor no gear mesh at all.

[gadget73]

The only real difference front to back on a TC is that the front motors have a tapped hole for the mounting bolts, and the rears do not. Front motors mount behind the regulator, rears mount between the regulator and the inner door skin. You can use the motor and internal transmission parts, but the transmission housing is different.

If your old motor runs, but won't crank the window up and down, it might just be the nylon bushings in the transmission are gone. These are avaliable for about $8 in the Help section of many auto parts stores.

[87 town]

OH, and the glove box won't open anymore the right side compresses but the left side doesn't do anything it just goes down and doesn't push any thing.

The glove box lock isn't a big deal. Mine went out in the past also. I ended up buying a new one from Lincoln. Don't remember how much though. Been years.... I would guess at $20. to $35. but there are plenty at the junkyard for probably $2. and easy to replace. Just(carefully) force yours open. A thin screwdriver (maybe covered with cloth) going in from the top may give you the leverege to release the catch.
The other issue with the glove boxes is that the vinyl cover over the box tends to come loose on the top edge and curl back. It is originally affixed with glue on the lip in the box. The "only" thing I found to reglue it was "epoxy" (the kind you mix yourself, grey and black paste), and doing just a few inches at a time using masking tape for your edge in the box, so the epoxy doesnt oooze out, you can use med sized rubber coated spring clamps to hold in place overnight and then do another 3-6 inches and so on. Did mine about 4 years ago and it hasn't moved yet. Just be sure you line the top seam up straight.
The window.....when mine went out I gave it to my mechanic to replace the motor. I wasn't set up at the time to do the work myself and I keep hearing how tough it is to change these motors so maybe I was better off.. I don't remember the cost though...

[joedogg]

Just don't be intimidated by the window motors. In fact, this was the easiest fix with the biggest payoff I've ever done to the car. Once you get the motor out, its cake. The housings for the motors are indeed all different for each different door, but the internal gear mechanism (Nylon gear with 3 nylon bushings holding in the metal gear which drives the regulator) is completely interchangable. The only real recommendation I can give you on fixing up your windows right here is that you should definately use lithium grease and spray up every moving part on the regulator. Those things seem to freeze more than the motors go out. I had one that didn't move at all, so I got the motor out, sprayed carb cleaner all over the regulator to get the old grease off, moved it up and down and up and down with new carb cleaner until it was clean then I did the same with the grease. You'd be shocked at what a difference it makes.

[Rollin6Dr]

Well just a week before the motor died, I took the panels off the front doors and lubed the tracks and all the moving parts, and the windows would actually roll down on their own. Before you would have to push them down and then they would roll up fine. So we are all lubed up.

[87 town]

Actually on a Towncar, the front and rear motors are not the same. They are also left and right side, so the motors are specific to which door you're installing them in. The front motors are also not the same as the ones from a Crown Vic. The rear motors are the same as a Vic or Grand Marq.

You might be able to get in there to pop the latch from the inside, but its gonna be a pain. See if you can pull the door towards the side that releases to see if it will move enough to let go. Don't pry it down though otherwise you'll probably rip the catch out of the dashboard.

I got the dash open once, before i got a new latch, by sliding a long thin flat head screwdriver in from the top on an angle while pulling firmly on the box towards me till i popped it open. (don't pull too hard though...) you may want to use some masking tape or something similar along the area of the outside where the screwdriver may touch the vinyl to protect it..

[Rollin6Dr]

I hate to bring up such an old post but I finally got the right part the mounting bracket on this motor matches what I pullled out. I bolted it motor in but all it does is spin. Is there a trick to get it to line up right? I can push the window up and down and it sounds like the gears just barely touch. Any ideas?

[discountfordpart]

sounds like you still have the wrong motor. or the regulator is bad also.
where did you get the motor this time?

Ed

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/ramfan92220/23395.jpg

[Rollin6Dr]

I got the motor from Ford.

[discountfordpart]

I got the motor from Ford.



did they sell you part number E1VZ66233V95ARM ?

if so then the regulator is bad!


Ed

[Rollin6Dr]

The original problem was that the window would get stuck in the down position and it would not roll up you wouldn't even hear the motor trying to turn.

E1VZ66233V95ARM Is the number, was it the regulator the entire time?

[discountfordpart]

maybe!