Performance Parts......

[ClaudioA89]

Hey guys, how have you been.

Well i have been reading alot and on different lincoln sites, now i havent seen any sites advertising performance parts. All i see is upgrades fr CV and Merc Gran marq's.

But basically what are the things i can do to my towncar that will give it a big kick. Whether it be changing the motor or whatever, i just want to know all the possibilities of me making my car faster then stock. So thatnkyou in advance.

[v8_dave]

ALL cv/gm stuff will directly fit. Basicly you need to decide if you want to do the PI swap and supercharge or not for +80HP to 100HP. Theres not too many options, but it all depends on your funds.

[ClaudioA89]

ALL cv/gm stuff will directly fit. Basicly you need to decide if you want to do the PI swap and supercharge or not for +80HP to 100HP. Theres not too many options, but it all depends on your funds.

hey do you know if any kind of air intake will fit into my 1999 tc sig. motor. Any specifi brands? I hear people say anything for a 4.6 liter motor will fit is that true? I just want someone to show me with links exactly what i can put in my motor. Anyone's upgrades, please tell me i really need to know. My funds are for an air intake not the drop in one's. and anything to make it faster withouth removing the motor.

please help.

[v8_dave]

A $200 maruader airbox and MAF and $40 PI ziptube will get you a few more horses from the air intake, but to benefit you will need $400 tuner. Couple that with PI heads and intake should get 260HP on premium gas. Thats a 50HP increase if you have dual exhaust, you have that right?...or else that should be your first 20HP mod.

[v8_dave]

Soma air intake threads...http://www.crownvic.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=performance&Number=1281193&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=365&fpart=1
http://www.crownvic.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=performance&Number=1266642&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=365&fpart=1&vc=1

[ClaudioA89]

A $200 maruader airbox and MAF and $40 PI ziptube will get you a few more horses from the air intake, but to benefit you will need $400 tuner. Couple that with PI heads and intake should get 260HP on premium gas. Thats a 50HP increase if you have dual exhaust, you have that right?...or else that should be your first 20HP mod.

Do you know of a site where i can find the airbox, and the dual exhaust. Thats what i would like to do now. Does the airbox fit perfect, and is that like an air intake, or is that different?

[v8_dave]

http://adtr.net/shop.php?page=intake but you may be able to shop aound for prices. You will need a tune though, blueovalchips.com is $400. Maybe 15HP here plus alot better throttle response and shifting.

Exhaust you just need to buy an H pipe, muffler and tailpipe from Ford or get the aftermarket Walker stuff that could rust out but probably not in CA very quick. It all just bolts up, no welding required. Thats an easy 20HP for a few hundered. Aftermarket mufflers will help get your exhaust tone more throaty too.

[ClaudioA89]

http://adtr.net/shop.php?page=intake but you may be able to shop aound for prices. You will need a tune though, blueovalchips.com is $400. Maybe 15HP here plus alot better throttle response and shifting.

Exhaust you just need to buy an H pipe, muffler and tailpipe from Ford or get the aftermarket Walker stuff that could rust out but probably not in CA very quick. It all just bolts up, no welding required. Thats an easy 20HP for a few hundered. Aftermarket mufflers will help get your exhaust tone more throaty too.

hey thanks dave, but iwent to the link and which one are you referring to. there are many which one do i need. or which do you recommend, also on the blue oval chips what tuner do i need. thanks

[cason1]

http://www.lincolnsonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45996

Have a looksie. Most all of that applies to you exactly as it does me. Your trans is a lot better than mine but other than that, you should be about spot on. I pretty much made up that list by going throught a Summit catalog and a Jegs catalog. Quite a bit of the Mustang GT stuff will fit. 96-99 stuff is pretty much a direct bolt up thing, 2000+ is PI and might take a little work but can be done. That is the route I'm planning. Going PI with a computer tune will probably take you up around 10:1 compression and closer to 290 hp as Pro said about mine in my thread. That means nothing but 93 octane gas and the added expense with that. The other option is to get a hole PI motor and drop in that has lower compression, around 260hp and can run on 87 octane.

[v8_dave]

Lonnie at blue oval chips IIRC, talk to him about what you want and are going to do and he can cuctom make a programmer for you. Theres only 1 marauder box and 1 ziptube on that page I think, thats all you need. So what are you thinking your going to do? Take some time and search around crownvics.net if you want even more great info.

[pro-five-oh]

Do you know of a site where i can find the airbox, and the dual exhaust. Thats what i would like to do now. Does the airbox fit perfect, and is that like an air intake, or is that different?

http://www.lincolnsonline.com/tech/00149.html

Just do that. It costs about $3 and nets you the same better throttle response as any aftermarket kit.

Once you remove the resonators, the intake tube is no longer a major source of performance loss.

[ClaudioA89]

Lonnie at blue oval chips IIRC, talk to him about what you want and are going to do and he can cuctom make a programmer for you. Theres only 1 marauder box and 1 ziptube on that page I think, thats all you need. So what are you thinking your going to do? Take some time and search around crownvics.net if you want even more great info.

i just know i want an air intake like the ones people get from k&n and other manufactures. the ones with the cool tube and a cone air filter at the end. i want the noise it makes.....thanks for your help..... i still dont see the marauder box and the ziptube....

[ClaudioA89]

Lonnie at blue oval chips IIRC, talk to him about what you want and are going to do and he can cuctom make a programmer for you. Theres only 1 marauder box and 1 ziptube on that page I think, thats all you need. So what are you thinking your going to do? Take some time and search around crownvics.net if you want even more great info.

actually now i saw it you said specifically the products so i was able to find it so now im gonna do this what do you think?

1.marauder air box (will it fit perfect or do i need a professional to do it?)

2. ziptube

3. the computer tune

4.dual exhaust.

[v8_dave]

Well, you got everything you need to get some more seat in the pants thrills listed...but thats also $650 plus exhaust which can range from $150 DIY to $500 at a shop. Its all stuff you can do yourself.

The K&N does look very cool and sound cool, but it doesnt net many HP. Kits are under $200 though and its a Do It Yourself (DIY) stuff.

If your looking for sound on a budget, do the exhaust first, you want the exhaust louder than the engine anyway, or else it sounds broken.

The KN may be louder than the MM box and tube, but you can also probably get away without the tune. But the tune is going to be the niggest improvement for feel and shifting over anything else listed. So plan wisely based on your budget. As you can see on my Town Car, I went with exhaust, it was easiest and netted 25 HP. But if I was going to spend $400 on a tune and MM box and tube, I would get the PI (2001+) heads and intake to make it worth the money. Like cason says, that combo is good for 260+ HP compared to your 195 HP you have now.

Good luck! :)

[ClaudioA89]

Well, you got everything you need to get some more seat in the pants thrills listed...but thats also $650 plus exhaust which can range from $150 DIY to $500 at a shop. Its all stuff you can do yourself.

The K&N does look very cool and sound cool, but it doesnt net many HP. Kits are under $200 though and its a Do It Yourself (DIY) stuff.

If your looking for sound on a budget, do the exhaust first, you want the exhaust louder than the engine anyway, or else it sounds broken.

The KN may be louder than the MM box and tube, but you can also probably get away without the tune. But the tune is going to be the niggest improvement for feel and shifting over anything else listed. So plan wisely based on your budget. As you can see on my Town Car, I went with exhaust, it was easiest and netted 25 HP. But if I was going to spend $400 on a tune and MM box and tube, I would get the PI (2001+) heads and intake to make it worth the money. Like cason says, that combo is good for 260+ HP compared to your 195 HP you have now.

Good luck! :)


"Don't i just love this site," all you guys are so intelligent here. I ask something, and you come at me with an answer that no shop can answer.....thank you V8 Dave

hey what do you mean about the pi heads and intake. What is this? do you mean it wont fit my 1999TC

also is a drop in k&n better then the marauder box and the ziptube or what?

thanks dave and others for your help....... so knowledgeable(if thats how you spell it)

[v8_dave]

Well, thanks, I just do alot of thumbing round on crownvics.net where everybody does this sorta modding to their cars, where as on LoL were more worried about comfort and stuff for out TC's.

Anyway, the Marauder box and tube is deffinitly better, being that it is mainly the 10mm bigger MAF that comes with the new box. Problem is this requires a tune. As long as you dont change the MAF, like the KN kits wont do, you wont really need a tune.

The PI heads are from the 2001+ 4.6L Panthers or 99+ Mustangs's. They will bolt on, but probably is not that easy for you or me, but a shop could do it. They flow alot better and would be the main source of extra power. They will require 93 Premium gas though.

PI heads and intake, Marauder airbox/MAF, P71 ziptube, SCT tune, dual exhuast is what will really give you some HP. Its just going to bite your wallet.

If you want to start somewhere though, start with dual exhaust with some meaner mufflers if you want that sorta mustang sound and a cheap, but worthwhile boost. I thought most 98+ had dual exhaust allready though, you checked though right?:confused:

[cason1]

My dad's 02 is single exhaust.:rolleyes:

[ClaudioA89]

Well, thanks, I just do alot of thumbing round on crownvics.net where everybody does this sorta modding to their cars, where as on LoL were more worried about comfort and stuff for out TC's.

Anyway, the Marauder box and tube is deffinitly better, being that it is mainly the 10mm bigger MAF that comes with the new box. Problem is this requires a tune. As long as you dont change the MAF, like the KN kits wont do, you wont really need a tune.

The PI heads are from the 2001+ 4.6L Panthers or 99+ Mustangs's. They will bolt on, but probably is not that easy for you or me, but a shop could do it. They flow alot better and would be the main source of extra power. They will require 93 Premium gas though.

PI heads and intake, Marauder airbox/MAF, P71 ziptube, SCT tune, dual exhuast is what will really give you some HP. Its just going to bite your wallet.

If you want to start somewhere though, start with dual exhaust with some meaner mufflers if you want that sorta mustang sound and a cheap, but worthwhile boost. I thought most 98+ had dual exhaust allready though, you checked though right?:confused:


i dont think it has dual exhaust i only see one muffler on the right side....its a 99 TC signature....so i think it doesnt have dual. and ive checked but i havent really looked under just on the outside i see one muffler

hey where do you get 93+ premium? i never seen that before are you sure it aint 91+?

[AZLincolnMercury]

i dont think it has dual exhaust i only see one muffler on the right side....its a 99 TC signature....so i think it doesnt have dual. and ive checked but i havent really looked under just on the outside i see one muffler

hey where do you get 93+ premium? i never seen that before are you sure it aint 91+?

Unless its a Cartier or Sig Touring it will not have duals.

[AZLincolnMercury]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190038889440

[v8_dave]

Our pumps have 87,91,93. Very odd CA doesnt have 93 too. Not sure if 91 will cut it.:confused: Alot of new overpowered 6cyl cars rely on the premium 93.

[ClaudioA89]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190038889440

i saw that a couple of days ago its a good deal dont you think...is that what will make me gain some HP?

[ClaudioA89]

Our pumps have 87,91,93. Very odd CA doesnt have 93 too. Not sure if 91 will cut it.:confused: Alot of new overpowered 6cyl cars rely on the premium 93.


I've only seen 87, 89, and 91 in los angeles. Since im 17 i havent been to too many gas stations so ther might be some 93. Maybe at 76 or something.......

[AZLincolnMercury]

i saw that a couple of days ago its a good deal dont you think...is that what will make me gain some HP?

good price for sure...
Supposedly the factory Ford duals in my Cartier adds 15HP.
The aftermarket mufflers should give you a nice sound too.

[cason1]

The higher octane rating, the higher compression ratio you can get away with. I have to run 89 during the summer to avoid pinging (pre-ignition) as it burns slower. The 93 burns even slower which is a must in high compression situations such as putting PI heads and intake on a non-PI bottom end. It raises the compression ration up from the conservative 8.5:1 ratio to around 10:1. Running lower octane fuel in a high compression Towncar will cause eventual destruction of the motor. Most of the other cars that call for high octane gas from the factory have knock sensors that detect the pinging (detonation) and retard the timing so you don't harm the motor. That is why the Mark VIII's 280hp high compression motor "can" be run on low grade gas. You won't have as much power as you would with premium because of the motor being retarded to save itself. We don't have that on our Towncars so we must run high grade with that combination.

[cason1]

good price for sure...
Supposedly the factory Ford duals in my Cartier adds 15HP.
The aftermarket mufflers should give you a nice sound too.


The restrictive factory duals add 15hp or so. Better flowing mufflers and no resonator should mean 20-25 over a factory single system.

[AZLincolnMercury]

BTW: Claudio, you were mentioning a K&N intake….I got an adapter plate for my Explorer off eBay which made it possible to accept a K&N cone filter. I would imagine the same thing will work for you. I can get a pic if you want. I would start by doing that and capping off the resonator. I dont think the adapter was more than $15.

[AZLincolnMercury]

we must run high grade with that combination.
I always run 87 in my Cartier….you think it makes that much of a difference? OR most importantly…is it worth the extra cost?

[cason1]

I always run 87 in my Cartier….you think it makes that much of a difference? OR most importantly…is it worth the extra cost?

Unless you have put PI heads and intake or experience pinging upon acceleration, 87 is reccomended. I have to run mid grade in summer due I'm sure to carbon buildup raising my compression ratio in combination with the heat because in winter, I am fine on 87.

[ClaudioA89]

BTW: Claudio, you were mentioning a K&N intake….I got an adapter plate for my Explorer off eBay which made it possible to accept a K&N cone filter. I would imagine the same thing will work for you. I can get a pic if you want. I would start by doing that and capping off the resonator. I dont think the adapter was more than $15.

hey i like the adapter idea what do you think of this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-F150-F250-cold-air-INTAKE-adapter-80mm-4-6-5-4_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ38634QQihZ015QQitemZ2 50038280536QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

or would this be better with a K&n

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/94-UP-Ford-Crown-Victoria-4-6L-V8-INTAKE-FILTER-ADAPTER_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ38634QQihZ018QQ itemZ280036428657QQrdZ1

what do you recommend?

[AZLincolnMercury]

I'd go with the 2nd one.
I left the bottom part of my air box and cut out the front to allow for better air flow. Sorry, that Expo is dirty as hell….you can see that car is “dead to me”. ;)

you can make it look a lot better...
1959

[v8_dave]

^Need a heat shield, ESPECIALLY out in AZ! I would go with a dirty airfilter on the stock box over that. :eek: :p :cool: :D

[AZLincolnMercury]

^Need a heat shield, ESPECIALLY out in AZ! I would go with a dirty airfilter on the stock box over that. :eek: :p :cool: :D

Did I not say that car was "dead to me"? ;) :D

The K&N $200+ Explorer kit is basically the same thing...at least to me
http://i15.ebayimg.com/01/i/03/83/c3/22_1.JPG

[ClaudioA89]

^Need a heat shield, ESPECIALLY out in AZ! I would go with a dirty airfilter on the stock box over that. :eek: :p :cool: :D

so if i want something like he has i have to put a heat shield? then would it be safe to use...... and what kind of performance am i looking at? is it better then just a drop in K&N filter?

[v8_dave]

You may just get better sound, little to no performance boost. Guaranteed if you feel anything, it would be placebo. It takes 20HP to feel it especially in these big cars. The MAF is the limiting piece to the air intake, not the stock filter which is big enough for this engine, or so I am told.

[AZLincolnMercury]

so if i want something like he has i have to put a heat shield? then would it be safe to use...... and what kind of performance am i looking at? is it better then just a drop in K&N filter?


It’s not an issue of being safe or not for the engine. The shield is designed to pull colder air from the front of the vehicle rather than the hotter engine compartment air. In my opinion, the K&N kits are no better than what you or I can make. My buddy has the $250 K&N setup (pic ^) on his Mercury Mountaineer (same as my Explorer) and the shield is so small that I cant see it doing anything.

No matter what, you are pulling cold air when the car is moving anyways .

[AZLincolnMercury]

take for example:
5.4 Ford
http://content.performanceproducts.com/main/103664/26F107B.Screen%20Back.jpg

Lincoln LS
http://www.doctorspeed.com/lincoln_ls_v8/lincoln-ls-v8-intake.jpg

[v8_dave]

It’s not an issue of being safe or not for the engine. The shield is designed to pull colder air from the front of the vehicle rather than the hotter engine compartment air. In my opinion, the K&N kits are no better than what you or I can make. My buddy has the $250 K&N setup (pic ^) on his Mercury Mountaineer (same as my Explorer) and the shield is so small that I cant see it doing anything.

No matter what, you are pulling cold air when the car is moving anyways .

Yep! Should have clarified that.

...like this one? It still could use a shield but its cheap!

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/440130/fullsize/img_1524.jpg

[ClaudioA89]

You may just get better sound, little to no performance boost. Guaranteed if you feel anything, it would be placebo. It takes 20HP to feel it especially in these big cars. The MAF is the limiting piece to the air intake, not the stock filter which is big enough for this engine, or so I am told.

but what would be better

1. Drop in K&n

2. Intake Adapter with a k&n cone filter

better as in relibility, and performance not that i will feel it..... but which one will i get better performace and be the most reliable and better sounding?

would you do this if you where looking to upgrade your intake? what would you do wether it be what i want to do or something else but that has to do with upgrading the intake?

[AZLincolnMercury]

yeah...thats a nice one

[v8_dave]

Its really a tough call man. If I had any intention to mod the Vic which is the same setup as you, I would pull out the little snorkel in front of the airbox (done), pull out that resonotar thing Pro posted a picture of (if I had it) and just get some new mufflers (and dual exhaust with resonator delete but I have that allready). It has some good sound to it now from the factory b/c there are no resonators on the tailpipe and factory dual exhaust. Listen to a police car accelrate next time and it actually sounds pretty good. I love growly exhausts, so I am biased. But I would not get the tune and box and tube unless I was going to do something else radical to get my moneys worth. For you I would also snatch an entire 3.55 rear end from a police car and bolt it up...dont even have to bleed the brakes after if you keep your calipers, just change the speedo gear, that makes them scream from the stoplights. Its up to you man, it sounds like you really want sound and performance. An exhuast covers both...and that ebay kit just bolts on. Just let us know what your thinking here.

In 2008 I have decided to buy a wrecked '03 Town Car and fix it up and dump a supercharged DOHC 4.6 or a 5.4 in it to really go nuts, ultimate sleeper car.

[ClaudioA89]

Its really a tough call man. If I had any intention to mod the Vic which is the same setup as you, I would pull out the little snorkel in front of the airbox (done), pull out that resonotar thing Pro posted a picture of (if I had it) and just get some new mufflers (and dual exhaust with resonator delete but I have that allready). It has some good sound to it now from the factory b/c there are no resonators on the tailpipe and factory dual exhaust. Listen to a police car accelrate next time and it actually sounds pretty good. I love growly exhausts, so I am biased. But I would not get the tune and box and tube unless I was going to do something else radical to get my moneys worth. For you I would also snatch an entire 3.55 rear end from a police car and bolt it up...dont even have to bleed the brakes after if you keep your calipers, just change the speedo gear, that makes them scream from the stoplights. Its up to you man, it sounds like you really want sound and performance. An exhuast covers both...and that ebay kit just bolts on. Just let us know what your thinking here.

In 2008 I have decided to buy a wrecked '03 Town Car and fix it up and dump a supercharged DOHC 4.6 or a 5.4 in it to really go nuts, ultimate sleeper car.

Thanks for all that info dave.... So then for sure im getting the dual exhaust....after im taking off the resonator and the snorkel.......but this is where im stuck i dont know if i should put the kit and a cone air filter, or just put a drop in K&N... please help in deciding what i should choose for the intake.....

and what is this 3.55 rear end you mentioned? how much? and where to find this?

[v8_dave]

Thats just the entire rear axle with a bigger gear ratio which makes it feel like more power. Notice how minivans can light up the tires by hitting the gas and we cant? They have a higher axle ratio in their transaxle. So even though the power output in my Vic and the Town Car is nearly identical, the 3.55's, make it feel like a rocket ship. You can get one at a junkyard, its just something to think about, not the easiest thing to install I bet.

The drop in KN element wont do anything for sound. The kit will. See the thing is you can get maybe 2-5HP from the kit, whereas the exhaust is more like 20HP and you can get way more sound from it, a nice burble at idle and everything. I would just say save your money and buy neither! But I am biased. The KN kits do look very cool though.

[ClaudioA89]

Thats just the entire rear axle with a bigger gear ratio which makes it feel like more power. Notice how minivans can light up the tires by hitting the gas and we cant? They have a higher axle ratio in their transaxle. So even though the power output in my Vic and the Town Car is nearly identical, the 3.55's, make it feel like a rocket ship. You can get one at a junkyard, its just something to think about, not the easiest thing to install I bet.

The drop in KN element wont do anything for sound. The kit will. See the thing is you can get maybe 2-5HP from the kit, whereas the exhaust is more like 20HP and you can get way more sound from it, a nice burble at idle and everything. I would just say save your money and buy neither! But I am biased. The KN kits do look very cool though.

for the cone air intake with the adapter do i need any heat shield living here in the valley of los angelesor just but the adapter and hook it up?

[v8_dave]

I dunno, but you can custom make one out of some plastic notebook folders or something if it would help. :confused: