2010 Ecoboost V6: massive, computer limited torque

[pro-five-oh]

Yes, this graph is for the upcoming Taurus SHO, but expect similar levels of power from the Lincoln MKS and MKT.

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/jalopnik/2009/02/2010_Ford_Taurus_SHO_EcoBoost_Power-Curve.jpg

[gadget73]

Would be interesting to see what would happen with a modified tune. I wonder if it would make disgusting power, or explode.

[pro-five-oh]

It will do both. :)

[Roadboss]

There are supposed to be several in the dungeon as we speak that are being whipped on for durability that are tuned up another 100 HP. Full throttle 20 hours straight for starters. :eek:

[pro-five-oh]

I'm sure the engine can handle it...the transaxle is my concern. Making fast, AWD, transaxle-based cars is a nightmare for durability...especially when you think about how strong a platform has in the current Ford Mustang.

Kind of a waste, if ya ask me. :)

[Roadboss]

Yes, that is the achilles heel.

[luxuryrules]

I'm sure the engine can handle it...

I'd actually wonder about that. My faith in Ford is such that I bet they just slapped a couple of turbos onto a Duratec. The proper way for them to have done this would have been stronger internals on that motor (a la Grand National) but we that gets pricey and the bean counters get in the way :)

[Roadboss]

The Duratech was built right to start with and there has been alot of effort put in on boosting it with these turbos, as it is going into some of the premium cars.

[pro-five-oh]

I'd actually wonder about that. My faith in Ford is such that I bet they just slapped a couple of turbos onto a Duratec. The proper way for them to have done this would have been stronger internals on that motor (a la Grand National) but we that gets pricey and the bean counters get in the way :)

I don't know of an OEM turbo motor that isn't built properly. If they didn't, they wouldn't last longer than 100k and the backlash would be terrible.

The transaxle is my only concern on these cars.

[DustyLBottoms]

I don't know of an OEM turbo motor that isn't built properly. If they didn't, they wouldn't last longer than 100k and the backlash would be terrible.

The transaxle is my only concern on these cars.

I really wouldn't worry about it. I'm sure they'll use a Volvo inspired 6 speed auto with a Haldex Unit. We're already pushing 300hp stock on them with the turbo I5, and NA V8. Much more power with aftermarket tunes, I haven't seen a problem yet.

[hwyhawg]

Was at the dealer recently and had a chance to test drive an MKS (I know I'm behind on this). I was awestruck at the solid nature of the car (noting that it's mostly made in Mexico; sorry UAW folks). Found a vacant section of the lot in the rear and romped it. The salesman almost stroked out as I reached 40 in about 2 seconds.

Completely impressed, although I know it's another dressed-up Ford Something-or-other and a Mercury Something-or-other-else. Nice solid, well-appointed workhorse that has the FEEL, anyway, of a long-lasting, reliable vehicle. Problem: I found one with no panarama roof (which is fine, since I'm 6' 7", so I didn't want one stealing my headroom) and no nav for over $40K. I thought this thing was supposed to come in at $30-something. Too much money for a glorified Mercury, but still worth wishing for. Love the center arm-to floor console, so that tall guys like myself can rest my leg against it, relieving the chronic hip pain I experience with my TC.

Maybe someday, when I pay down the normal negative equity associated with the TC, I can find one a little ol' lady drove for a year or so.

Hawg

[pro-five-oh]

Was at the dealer recently and had a chance to test drive an MKS (I know I'm behind on this). I was awestruck at the solid nature of the car (noting that it's mostly made in Mexico; sorry UAW folks).


The MKS is made in Chicago. The MKZ is Mexico. Drive it guilt free...sort of. ;)

[larryeddington]

I have had my MKS for almost a year and it is a super car with a couple of caveats, the sync system responses are too loud and turning them down does not remain as it will arbitrarily return to lout. Also on what I think could be a safety note, the vehicle has some torque steer issues when one applies strong throttle such as in passing. The front end doe not stay planted well and seems to want to wander to the point of being scary at times. It might be come a real problem with the increase HP of the Turbo.

Larry

[pro-five-oh]

The front end doe not stay planted well and seems to want to wander to the point of being scary at times. It might be come a real problem with the increase HP of the Turbo.

Mandatory all-wheel drive on the turbo model. Problem solved. ;)

[Dereck]

The Duratech was built right to start with and there has been alot of effort put in on boosting it with these turbos, as it is going into some of the premium cars.

Hi

Uh oh a Duratec with turbos!! :hide:

Regards

Dereck

[DaKat]

At least Lincoln finally made a vaguely interesting commercial.

[Philip]

At least Lincoln finally made a vaguely interesting commercial.

That they have. I'm getting pretty proud of Ford here lately, especially in the current domestic automotive climate. I personally think they're going to land on top when the dust settles. GM has enjoyed some success resurrecting the Cadillac nameplate to some of it's previous glory, but in technology wars, the turtle always wins the race. A large Lincoln with a twin-turbo drivetrain? Delicious!

[KStromberg]

6 second car to 60 mph. Not bad at all :cool:

[candycane]

all the eco-boost vehicles I have driven are great cars. the hp and torque are great yet subtle enough that it isn't confused with a sports car. The MKT drives well and the ecoboost is great in that "truck". That is a big, long, heavy vehicle and it moves effortlessly with that motor.Most customers seem like they are expecting a brash, jerky experience when driving the SHO. they are surprised with the refinement that went into that vehicle.surprisingly, not many people like the paddle shifters and say they would hardly use them........go figure????

[candycane]

our first MKt for sale came in last night...fully loaded one......we have a couple of preorders, but I cant wt to se what the general response to this vehicl will be.

[KStromberg]

I find it sort of funny how the 3.5 "HO" in the Dodge Chargers put out 100 hp less and were pretty gutless. Definitley not an engine matched too well for that car, but this on the other hand :leer:

[PETE]

well on stangnet,a guy figured ouy,how to add boost,pull timing out,and add fuel,12.75 in the qtr.it was at bowling green track. he smoke a mutang in the other lane. hey mister plastic piggssss,

[mark95man]

RE:"the vehicle has some torque steer issues when one applies strong throttle such as in passing. The front end doe not stay planted well and seems to want to wander to the point of being scary at times. It might be come a real problem with the increase HP of the Turbo." And that's why I would only purchase a RWD vehicle. Can we recall the claims made in the mid to late 1970s as GM introduced their FWD cars? Lower cost, easy to replace---(just purchase a RWD which WAS easy!) And then the front boots dried out leading to costly FWD universal failure. As for AWD, why? Just a modified FWD with limited RWD. For those considering HP and SPEED, professional race cars use what---fwd, awd or RWD? And there's good reason why RWD is best. I will not even rent FWD when traveling!

[LithiumCobalt]

I find it sort of funny how the 3.5 "HO" in the Dodge Chargers put out 100 hp less and were pretty gutless. Definitley not an engine matched too well for that car, but this on the other hand :leer:

The Dodge 3.5 is a dog. We rented one to drive to St. Louis a few years ago for work and the thing could hardly get out of its own way.

[2TonsOfFun]

The Dodge 3.5 is a dog. We rented one to drive to St. Louis a few years ago for work and the thing could hardly get out of its own way.

Some of the cops around here have V6 Magnums!! Lol :eek:

[pro-five-oh]

The Dodge 3.5 is a dog. We rented one to drive to St. Louis a few years ago for work and the thing could hardly get out of its own way.

Guess I can't interest you in a 2.7L Dodge then! LOL:p

[KStromberg]

Guess I can't interest you in a 2.7L Dodge then! LOL:p

Yeah. I mean c'mon. It's and "H.O." according to the badging. :rolleyes:

[KStromberg]

Some of the cops around here have V6 Magnums!! Lol :eek:

Oh geez, that's even worse. I thought their intent was to actually catch criminals. I guess at this point they would be relying greatly on radio and the eye in the sky, because what's under the hood definitely aint doin' it. :p

[pro-five-oh]

Oh geez, that's even worse. I thought their intent was to actually catch criminals. I guess at this point they would be relying greatly on radio and the eye in the sky, because what's under the hood definitely aint doin' it. :p

Yeah, I think that's reason enough to drive an Impala cop car. Ugh.