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Old December 23rd, 2017, 04:21 PM
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Hydac accumulator balls

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80s and some 90s Rolls Royce and Bentley cars used these on each corner for braking from what I understand.

I was looking int a 90's Bentley Turbo R and while doing the research, someone said how expensive and difficult it can be to work the brake system. Which i thought was bull crap.

Similar spheres can be found on beloved Citroen SM and their suspensions.
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Some Chryslers, Cadillac, and BMW also used that same system, in addition to the Mark VII and the TurboCoupe.

If the Bentley uses 4 balls, it would have to be a very different brake system than the Teves setup the Mark VII got.
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Some Chryslers, Cadillac, and BMW also used that same system, in addition to the Mark VII and the TurboCoupe.

If the Bentley uses 4 balls, it would have to be a very different brake system than the Teves setup the Mark VII got.
Yep. Apparently not as uncommon as I first thought.
w126 Mercedes had two spheres for the rear shocks. 560 models.
w140 from 92-99 also had them in the rear.
Any self leveling suspension that involves hydraulic oil probably has few of these spheres.
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Pugeout I think had a hydraulic suspension setup, wonder if that used them too.

Kinda glad I only have one thing that needs these. The Conti is old school hydroboost off the power steering. it is a bit funny hearing the whirr noise of the PS pump when I hit the brakes though.
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hey Jud

thx for your post but when i hit the check out button i get a "not secure" warning in the address bar. also their phone (352-732-5013) is disconned. i sent them an email, so i'll let everyone know how that goes. i was gonna get 2. later.
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thx for your post but when i hit the check out button i get a "not secure" warning in the address bar. also their phone (352-732-5013) is disconned. i sent them an email, so i'll let everyone know how that goes. i was gonna get 2. later.
That is strange. I order 1 very recently (over the holidays) from them and received it in a couple of days. I did try calling them first but all I got was a wierd sound from the phone on their end in stead of a normal ring. So I just ordered it on there web site. Other than that, I donít know. Definitely keep us posted. If you use a credit card, you are protected as Iím sure most know.
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just installed my new hydac accumulator.

works great. pedal is higher (like new) and takes 6 brake applications before my pump runs. and it runs for just a second. i can barely detect it. unfortuneately they are already sold out. a friend ordered one (352-209-4349, new phone number) and was told more would be in (in a couple of months). they refunded his money. I can't thank Jud enough for his post. Thanks, Jud.
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works great. pedal is higher (like new) and takes 6 brake applications before my pump runs. and it runs for just a second. i can barely detect it. unfortuneately they are already sold out. a friend ordered one (352-209-4349, new phone number) and was told more would be in (in a couple of months). they refunded his money. I can't thank Jud enough for his post. Thanks, Jud.
You're welcome and thanks for the update. I have 2 now as spares but have an OEM installed at present. How did you install it since there isn't a tool insert connector on top?
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6 pumps before the motor kicks in is excellent. Typical even with a fresh one is 3-4.
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Just wanted to say it's 5 pumps on a test today. The ball comes charged to 1000 psi. Stamped 3000 psi on ball. OEM is stamped 210 bars (=3045 psi). I greased the rubber o-ring (supplied) with dielectric grease and spun on by hand. Didn't muscle it. The weight of the ball is almost enough to seal it. I'm not worried about the absence of a nut on top. That baby won't be coming off for another 30 years (heh). Shout out to spinning-wheels.
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I forget what the torque spec is, but I believe its not a whole lot. You could probably get it on there by hand, getting it back off might be the trouble
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I forget what the torque spec is, but I believe its not a whole lot. You could probably get it on there by hand, getting it back off might be the trouble
Mostly by hand is what I did, since it was missing the nut on top of it like the original one. So far so good.
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There was a "how to" with pics on the other Mark VII Forum regarding this but it seems to have disappeared. What someone did was attach a lug nut to the top of the accumulator using JB Weld. He removed the paint from where the lug was attached. He said it worked quite well.
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Since I have the manual in front of me for other reasons, I thought I'd have a look at what it says. Torque for the accumulator ball is 30-34 ft-lb. Tighter than I thought it was.
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There was a "how to" with pics on the other Mark VII Forum regarding this but it seems to have disappeared. What someone did was attach a lug nut to the top of the accumulator using JB Weld. He removed the paint from where the lug was attached. He said it worked quite well.
I tried this method. Didnt work well for me.
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The right sized band style oil filter wrench and universal extension works great for this , install and removal .
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