Fire! smoke in my interior

SilverFox · #1 November 6th, 2013, 02:17 PM

Sunday night watching the Walking Dead at friends house...door locks/keyless/seats stopped working. I was baffled. Looked in manual, said it was tied to the start solenoid.
Found the little breaker, beat on it, whatnot...it would go TING, and not work...then after a while it would work again.

....ah.....maybe it is is bad

Wired around last night (my keyless is a life saver, gotta have it)

no problems till today at lunch break, drove 3 miles, ate, came back out...smoke!!!

Pulled the breaker to kill the doors since that was the only change I had made.

Smell of electrical melt near passenger side under dash.

Anyone seen this issue?
My little short probably just got bigger

The keyless worked just fine when I cam out from lunch...so maybe i have a chance nothing melted together yet.

SilverFox · #2 November 7th, 2013, 10:16 AM

PASSENGER seat bolster/lumbar wires rubbed through ... melted wire all the way to the drivers door.....yea

SilverFox · #3 November 11th, 2013, 09:37 AM

Fixed it.
Cut the passenger seat harness from my parts car
splice it all in, replaced the breaker...good as new

THe culprit was the Bolster/lumber motor wires - up under the seat resting against the seat track, fwd/backword motion and people sitting in the seat rubbed the wire through touched the rail....arched enough to eat the steel up!
Ford didn;t run the wire protection loom far enough...it was about 1" short to protect it.

Michael VII LSC/SE · #4 November 11th, 2013, 09:52 AM

Loom must have been made on a Monday Morning and installed on a Friday afternoon.

SilverFox · #5 November 11th, 2013, 11:32 AM

FWIW, there were 2 unused pins going to the harness...the car harness had pins in the connector, but the seat did not.
You know how the drivers seat belt has two wires going to it....the passenger in my 92 does not.
Oddly enough, the harness I cut from another 92 had the same two wires, in a differ pinout, and it did have the seat belt wires for the passenger side.

Monday or not...consistency was lacking.

Tony T · #6 November 14th, 2013, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverFox

FWIW, there were 2 unused pins going to the harness...the car harness had pins in the connector, but the seat did not.
You know how the drivers seat belt has two wires going to it....the passenger in my 92 does not.
Oddly enough, the harness I cut from another 92 had the same two wires, in a differ pinout, and it did have the seat belt wires for the passenger side.

Monday or not...consistency was lacking.

I think, but I'm not sure the two unused pins were for an option that ended up not being used that allowed two position of seats and other things. In other words driver #1 and driver #2 as in later cars.

towncar95 · #7 January 24th, 2021, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverFox

Sunday night watching the Walking Dead at friends house...door locks/keyless/seats stopped working. I was baffled. Looked in manual, said it was tied to the start solenoid.
Found the little breaker, beat on it, whatnot...it would go TING, and not work...then after a while it would work again.

....ah.....maybe it is is bad

Wired around last night (my keyless is a life saver, gotta have it)

no problems till today at lunch break, drove 3 miles, ate, came back out...smoke!!!

Pulled the breaker to kill the doors since that was the only change I had made.

Smell of electrical melt near passenger side under dash.

Anyone seen this issue?
My little short probably just got bigger

The keyless worked just fine when I cam out from lunch...so maybe i have a chance nothing melted together yet.

somehow i stumbled over this ....silverfox you still have your mark ?

W.V. Kelly · #8 January 24th, 2021, 11:11 AM

I'm going to guess that more than one of us will be checking that area soon. It's an area clearly prone to faults (lots of wires, bare steel, frequent motion, metallic things migrating under the seats, out of sight).
W. V. Kelly

SilverFox · #9 January 25th, 2021, 10:07 AM

Yes of course.
The car is out to pasture at the moment with a bad oil leak and no AC....I swapped to SN95 front (again) but needs bumpsteer kit to drive better and the 63mm calipers are junk compared to the 73mm SVO ... needs cobra rotors and calipers. But, yes, its still here.