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Old September 10th, 2008, 04:03 PM
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Exclamation Where I can find a schematics for air suspension

Hi!

First of all SORRY for my Englisch.

I have troubles with my 6.1995 Lincoln Town Car the rear air suspension. We changed the air suspension itself (the bag with is filled with air...) and some kind of a valve as well as a switch. But we still have a problem because the car ist all the time to high at rear, i mean the automatic does not realy work.

So i am looking URGENT for a complete schematics of the rear air suspension system? Can PLEASE anybody help me? THANK YOU!!!

...or did you habe an other idea whats maybe the problem can solve?

Again: THANK`S!

Pascal

EDIT: Mistake corrected on year of the car

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You mightn ot even need the schematics. Air Suspension systme is rather simple, actually. If the rear if your car is high in the air, more than likely, your vent solenoid has frozen shut, due to moisture. Only for for this that I am aware of, is to replace your Air Compressor/Drier assembly.

If you have the tools, use this to help pinpoint your problem.

http://www.lincolnsonline.com/tech/00061.html



But I'll willing to bet all you need is a new compressor/drier assembly. Always recommended to replace when you get new Air Springs.
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Old September 10th, 2008, 04:24 PM
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Wow!!!!! Sooo quick! GREAT! THANK YOU!

So i`m right now in the us and i will get one of this "compressor/drier assembly"

The Car dealer means he has one in stock but its over 400 dollars... ok

And you think after replacing this all want work proper/good?

Is there nothing like an "air suspension computer" or something it maybe can be not ok?

Realy nice of you! So 1000 thank!

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Wow!!!!! Sooo quick! GREAT! THANK YOU!

So i`m right now in the us and i will get one of this "compressor/drier assembly"

The Car dealer means he has one in stock but its over 400 dollars... ok

And you think after replacing this all want work proper/good?

Is there nothing like an "air suspension computer" or something it maybe can be not ok?

Realy nice of you! So 1000 thank!

Pascal

OK, hold on.....

You can buy a rebuilt compressor (just as good) for 200 dollars from www.strutmasters.com if you feel like waiting a few days or so for i to come in. I havent heard of anyone here having problems with them. There is an air suspension module, but they rarely fail. I am willing to bet it is your compressor/drier assembly, and hey, it should have been replaced with the springs anyway, so it is a win-win situation.

Also, Dereck posted the diagrams above, not to steal thunder from him.
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Perfect! perfect!

@Dereck

Is it possible to send the schematics via e-mail? Because the resulutio is`nt the best!

pbch@bluemail.ch

Thanks a lot once again!

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Hi Pbch

Sure, do you want fries with that?

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Oil für autoamtic transmission?

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No. It`s nice. Even without fries! ;-)

So... I`m back in Switzerland. Next Week we will see. I have a new Air Compressor/Drier assembly. I will tell you all if this part fix the problem or not.

small question for you: do i need this oil for automatic transmission?

Castrol Mercon V, ATF Dexron III

Remember: Lincoln Town Car, 6.1995

THANKS!

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Hi Pcbh

You need Mercon V transmission oil for your car any quality brand will do it doesn't have to be Castrol, you are going to need about 13 quarts (12 litres) for a complete fluid change.

If you cannot get Mercon V in Switzerland then you could use a quality Dexron III with some Lubegard Green Top added.

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Old September 14th, 2008, 07:14 AM
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Great!

Should i do a COMPLETE Change with 70`000km (about 45`000 miles)?

Or just a "service" which i think is about 5 qts.

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Hi Pbch

Officially a complete transmission fluid and filter change is every 30,000 miles so you are a little overdue and a lot of people (including myself) change the fluid & filter every 15,000 miles.

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Old September 14th, 2008, 10:02 AM
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Hi Dereck!

I`m realy happy and its a unbelievable service!

15`000 miles? Ohhh... Just an other question. Do you (does somebody?) have a list with the dings they should be serviced (exchanged) at miles xy?

unfortunately i dont have service package (service manual) that tells me, what i should exchange at which milage.

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Hi guys

i have bad news. i get the new air dryer/compressor unit. unfortunately the air suspension still want work.

So all of you they bet about this unit has loose!

The suspension still stay on the same high, no difference with load the trunk or unload. Nothing change.

So i think it MUST be the electronic control unit. what to you all think now?

Ho much will this electronic unit for air suspension be? $$$

Lincoln Town Car 1995!

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You might want to check on the rear height sensor. Although, if it's disconnected it usually rides low, not high. However, if it's gone bad, it may be stuck compressed and then give the high ride you have now. Anyway, there are pictures and the adjustment in the tech article.
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Officially a complete transmission fluid and filter change is every 30,000 miles so you are a little overdue and a lot of people (including myself) change the fluid & filter every 15,000 miles.

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Ouch 15K miles Do you have stock in Castrol??

I changed the fluid in my 2001 at 120K (aboot 40K since previous owner service) and again at 165K and it HARDLY seemed used pan was really clean still. I drive aboot 70% highway and it really would have been a waste to change it in half the time.

IIRC it was aboot $60 for the 12 qts of Castrol Merc-V and the filter. So really your talking $480 for trans service over 120,000 miles vs $180. Running the service at 40K requires some attention to the color/condition of the fluid and more importantly requires attention to the residue on the magnet. So if you change at 40K and find a pile of residue and the fluid is dark, change it sooner next time

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Is the F5AZ5A919A control module the right thing i will need?

Is it SURE the right number? Lincoln Town Car Signature Series 6.1995

Something else that could be defective? I ask again, because i wanted order ALL things just before. And there was no other thing all mentioned as always the air drayer/compressor. But as you now know, it was not this thing.
http://www.suncoreindustries.com/eng...uspension.html

--> I now changed allmost everything about the air suspension and it still not working.

With the schematics we find out, that there must be a 3 volt signal to give a signal to the compressor to lower or higher the suspension. We can not meassure such a signal from the unit.

I am real in despair. It costs me to a lot of money and it does not function yet.

Pascal

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Have you done like Tman70 mentioned and checked the suspension level sensor? It is above the rear axle and must be hooked up and working right for the self leveling to work.
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Have you done like Tman70 mentioned and checked the suspension level sensor? It is above the rear axle and must be hooked up and working right for the self leveling to work.
suspension level sensor is new as well

P.S. Where i find the control module?

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Hi!

First of all SORRY for my Englisch.

I have troubles with my 2000 Lincoln Town Car.....

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So... I`m back in Switzerland......

Remember: Lincoln Town Car, 2000

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Hi guys

I have bad news. i get the new air dryer/compressor unit. unfortunately the air suspension still want work.
.......

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With the schematics we find out, that there must be a 3 volt signal to give a signal to the compressor to lower or higher the suspension.

Pascal
Hi Pbch

Did your car just age 5 years during this thread? Or do you just not know if you have a 95 or 2000 Town Car?

Those diagrams I supplied you are for a 2000 Town Car and useless for a 95 Town Car.

Where do you get the idea the compressor needs 3 volts? My inflatable love doll needs more than 3 volts.

The air ride module is under the right side dash.

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Does your air suspension light come on? It is in the dash panel. The control module on my 94 is located in the right side of the trunk behind the trim panel.
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@Dereck

You have right. Unfortunatly i always thinks it is a 2000 TC. But it is a 6.1995

That`s also the reason why i get the wrong compressor/air dryer from my holidays. But now i hve all the right things and it`s all mounted. But as you know it still dont work. The suspension still remains on one place. No up, no down.

Do you also have the schematics from the 1995 TC?
What do you think it could be instead of the control module?

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Does your air suspension light come on? It is in the dash panel. The control module on my 94 is located in the right side of the trunk behind the trim panel.
Yes!

When the switch (in the trunk) is on, the "check air suspension" light comes on.

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